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05 hours agoLilieLilie
Kosura (5 days ago) #23637195
I'm not sure whether it would increase or decrease the prices, moving from china to Japan sounds like a good thing to me but yeah, again, me XD

From what i've understood, the companies looked at the rising cost of manufactoring in china and calculated that it would cost around the same to manufactor in japan.

KosuraHere's the thing about prices tho and this actually comes from some other people from around the world as well as a few from Japan themselves. People living in Japan barely notice the price change. For them it's about the same price. The people really suffering from it all are those outside of Asia. With most of Europe being the worst cuz they have a ton of added fees upon it all ... custom fees and what not (unless you cheat the system tho which is all nice and sweet and all, until they find out >.>)
While companies are definitely aware of the increase in popularity when it comes to the hobby they're still focused on what's directly in front of them ... aka Japan itself.

I have no idea what the people in japan think about the rising prices, maybe they don't mind :D. I agree, being EU collector sucks :(.

KosuraI feel like there's just too much anime now and only a few of it all is decent, to good.
And even the somewhat decent ones have so much crap going on in it that it gets hard to really focus.
The one negative i can think of too much animes every season is that it's easy to miss a gem anime you might like because there's so much just "decent" anime. Still it's better than 20years ago when we didn't have that much animes and there was a lot of bad to decent anime back then aswell :D.
KosuraFor example an anime I watched a few days ago (completed in one go) "kobayashi-san chi no maid dragon", while the story was rather interesting and the randomness, humor, etc in it was a nice change of pace for people like me who tend to watch more 'serious' anime, it has so much things in it that was so annoying that it was hard to focus on the story, the anime as a whole. Just so much fanservice (fanservice one way or another, many ways of fanservice). There were some moments I honestly shed a small tear but nothing in comparison to Anohana, an anime I haven't been able to rewatch ever since the first time ... thinking about parts alone makes me tear up :')
And while in general after finishing "maid dragon", I have to be honest, it's a decent anime but there's not a single thing that really pulled me in. In a bit it's just gonna go in the pile in my head of anime I watched but barely care about and most likely will forget what even happened.
So in the end people will be in that tree while watching it but fall out whenever they go watch something else, leaving people new to it in there by themselves (if that makes any sense, it's basically what you said about the community dividing and what i said about people jumping from left to right)
Tbh I've done it in the beginning as well. I know one of them which I still look back on and have "mleh" thought about it. Don't regret it to much that I bought them, I don't feel to bad about it but at the same time I shouldn't have. The anime with which that happened for me was 'sora no otoshimono'. The characters in the anime are really well done.
Especially Nymp and Ikaros, while most of it is kind of underlying and background things, they definitely created the characters and gave them a real interesting feel. But the anime itself was mediocre at best. It was so badly done, with worse than pointless fanservice scattered around everywhere. If they made that anime in a serious matter like AB, anohana, etc it would've been amazing.
There's few animes i'm watching this season: Kakegurui (Has weird faces and fanservice though), 18if (I ABSOLUTELY love this anime so far, episode 3 was great. I recommend giving this anime a chance if you have time and intrest.) I'm also watching Touken Ranbu.

Are you watching any of the new animes this season ?

PS. one more thing: Your posts are TOO LONG :DDD
11 day agomonkrymonkry
Lilie (1 day ago) #237819261 more week for WF! let's pray for a gilgamesh scale! :D

*crossing fingers* I'm very very nervous
05 days agoKosuraKosura
View spoilerHide spoilerLilie (8 days ago) #23482069Ah, that sucks. I never was on figure fm but its good to know what happened on that site, thanks for sharing. I have say though that there was someone here on MFC who pointed out that some of the japanese figure companies have started to manufacture in japan instead of china now. I was more suprised that the manufacturing in china has become more expensive now aswell. That's probably one of the reason's for the increase in figure prices. There was this old news article i found: [ext link ]

I wonder when were gonna hit the ceiling with the prices and is the japanese market still the main market for figures like in the past or is the shift towards more international market, where feedback from outside japan starts to matter for companies. If japanese people keep buying figures despite the raising prices there's not much we can do, unless the figure market has already become big enough internationally. I don't have the data of figure sales, only the figure companies have.
I agree that people now can't afford to buy as many figures from their favorite animes, so they have to pick one that fits their price range. Less figures bought, less anticipation, less discussion. There is also an interesting fact that there is new anime series coming every year on top of the current ones so the community will become more divided every year. Maybe people shouldn't be hating that there's new miku figures coming every year, those figures are bringing the community more together! (since nearly everybody knows about miku) :D (fuck saber though lol)
This is really hard to tell since we don't have access to the sales data. Maybe the companies are selling less figures but their prices are higher than in the past so they are still profiting? I think all we can do is look at the "owned" amount on the figure pages here on MFC and try to speculate if they are selling well or not.
Yeah older animes don't get figures unless it was a popular anime. The whole hype-sell fast is well known phenomenon in Japan where they know they have to get the merchandise out and sold before the hype dies down. This is mostly for smaller anime series though. For big popular series they might take a steady approach for selling merchandise because they know it will sell.
Me neither, but it's fun to speculate and see if i was right or wrong in the future xD.
I've seen many of those kind of people aswell that jump from series to another. I think people jump into a series too quickly and start buying figures before thinking if they are still gonna love the series/figures years later. That's why there's a lot of new collectors who jump into this hobby and then six months later are selling their whole collection. There's nothing really wrong with that i think if it brings them happiness, even if it's only temporal. But if it brings them regret, then that's not good. Just my opinion though.


I'm not sure whether it would increase or decrease the prices, moving from china to Japan sounds like a good thing to me but yeah, again, me XD

Here's the thing about prices tho and this actually comes from some other people from around the world as well as a few from Japan themselves. People living in Japan barely notice the price change. For them it's about the same price. The people really suffering from it all are those outside of Asia. With most of Europe being the worst cuz they have a ton of added fees upon it all ... custom fees and what not (unless you cheat the system tho which is all nice and sweet and all, until they find out >.>)
While companies are definitely aware of the increase in popularity when it comes to the hobby they're still focused on what's directly in front of them ... aka Japan itself.

I feel like there's just too much anime now and only a few of it all is decent, to good.
And even the somewhat decent ones have so much crap going on in it that it gets hard to really focus.
For example an anime I watched a few days ago (completed in one go) "kobayashi-san chi no maid dragon", while the story was rather interesting and the randomness, humor, etc in it was a nice change of pace for people like me who tend to watch more 'serious' anime, it has so much things in it that was so annoying that it was hard to focus on the story, the anime as a whole. Just so much fanservice (fanservice one way or another, many ways of fanservice). There were some moments I honestly shed a small tear but nothing in comparison to Anohana, an anime I haven't been able to rewatch ever since the first time ... thinking about parts alone makes me tear up :')
And while in general after finishing "maid dragon", I have to be honest, it's a decent anime but there's not a single thing that really pulled me in. In a bit it's just gonna go in the pile in my head of anime I watched but barely care about and most likely will forget what even happened.
So in the end people will be in that tree while watching it but fall out whenever they go watch something else, leaving people new to it in there by themselves (if that makes any sense, it's basically what you said about the community dividing and what i said about people jumping from left to right)

Tbh I've done it in the beginning as well. I know one of them which I still look back on and have "mleh" thought about it. Don't regret it to much that I bought them, I don't feel to bad about it but at the same time I shouldn't have. The anime with which that happened for me was 'sora no otoshimono'. The characters in the anime are really well done.
Especially Nymp and Ikaros, while most of it is kind of underlying and background things, they definitely created the characters and gave them a real interesting feel. But the anime itself was mediocre at best. It was so badly done, with worse than pointless fanservice scattered around everywhere. If they made that anime in a serious matter like AB, anohana, etc it would've been amazing.

PS: to end my own ramble ... I hate BRS the series ... love the OVA tho, one of the first things I watched coming into the whole anime thing :D
08 days ago (8 days ago)LilieLilie
KosuraFigure fm went through the same thing. But way more in the beginning, I noticed that as prices went up there were a few blogs talking about it but just as on here they got a lot of backlash due to fanboys/fangirls not wanting to accept reality and giving excuses to why the prices are totally justified. Blogs started to slow down and pretty much turn into all FS entries. Most of the popular, highly active members dropped out because of that (alongside with Danny kind of becoming a jerk, nicest way to say this).
I noticed a few came over to this place for a few reasons, to sell and to find cheaper pre-owned figures.

Ah, that sucks. I never was on figure fm but its good to know what happened on that site, thanks for sharing. I have say though that there was someone here on MFC who pointed out that some of the japanese figure companies have started to manufacture in japan instead of china now. I was more suprised that the manufacturing in china has become more expensive now aswell. That's probably one of the reason's for the increase in figure prices. There was this old news article i found: [ext link ]

KosuraMfc is just now starting to turn to that. People are finally starting to understand and realize that the prices are going out of control. The interest in anime might stay but people just can't afford it anymore. I doubt they're really losing interest, I think it's more the fact that because they aren't willing to spent as much anymore they can't really talk along about things anymore.

I wonder when were gonna hit the ceiling with the prices and is the japanese market still the main market for figures like in the past or is the shift towards more international market, where feedback from outside japan starts to matter for companies. If japanese people keep buying figures despite the raising prices there's not much we can do, unless the figure market has already become big enough internationally. I don't have the data of figure sales, only the figure companies have.

I agree that people now can't afford to buy as many figures from their favorite animes, so they have to pick one that fits their price range. Less figures bought, less anticipation, less discussion. There is also an interesting fact that there is new anime series coming every year on top of the current ones so the community will become more divided every year. Maybe people shouldn't be hating that there's new miku figures coming every year, those figures are bringing the community more together! (since nearly everybody knows about miku) :D (fuck saber though lol)

KosuraBut there are quite some other things as well that I spotted. Figures aren't really selling in the same way anymore. Might just be me but I feel like they're selling less figures of newer series than they used to. This is really hard to tell since we don't have access to the sales data. Maybe the companies are selling less figures but their prices are higher than in the past so they are still profiting? I think all we can do is look at the "owned" amount on the figure pages here on MFC and try to speculate if they are selling well or not.

KosuraWhich might be a cause for the price raise. They seem so focused on current popular anime and such but by the time they actually release a figure the anime's already almost forgotten (figure of speaking). Because of the increase in popularity for this hobby, companies started to see themselves as actual world wide companies instead of hobby specialist (if that makes any sense). Focusing more on the hype than on true fans, creating in bigger bulks, trying to sell a lot in a short time instead of selling in a steady pace. Yeah older animes don't get figures unless it was a popular anime. The whole hype-sell fast is well known phenomenon in Japan where they know they have to get the merchandise out and sold before the hype dies down. This is mostly for smaller anime series though. For big popular series they might take a steady approach for selling merchandise because they know it will sell.

KosuraBut again, this is all coming out of me, not actual facts that I have on paper.Me neither, but it's fun to speculate and see if i was right or wrong in the future xD.

KosuraBut I do raise a question with this, how often do you see people new to the hobby, to anime, jump from one thing to the other, completely ignoring/forgetting their first interest?
I personally see it all the time, people who over time just completely lose interest in an anime series they deemed as being their favorite and what not (along with the waifu crap and things, they also jump from one to the next, hence I find it total bs). I do believe that this has a lot to do with the anime itself as well, not really having a deep meaning and such to which people can really latch onto.
I've seen many of those kind of people aswell that jump from series to another. I think people jump into a series too quickly and start buying figures before thinking if they are still gonna love the series/figures years later. That's why there's a lot of new collectors who jump into this hobby and then six months later are selling their whole collection. There's nothing really wrong with that i think if it brings them happiness, even if it's only temporal. But if it brings them regret, then that's not good. Just my opinion though.
09 days agoKosuraKosura
Lilie (9 days ago) #23446668Have you noticed something strange? It feels like this site is sort of dying or going through some sort of phase. I could be wrong, but i'm assuming the amount of members on this site should be growing every year as this hobby becomes more popular.
Good example of growth is the r/animefigures sub in reddit that already passed over 15k users. But on here mfc i've noticed that on the blog section for example new blogs are getting much less views than 2-3 years ago. Nowdays the blogs get around 600-2500 views and if you go back like 300 pages to blogs 2-3 years old, you will notice they have a lot of more views 2000-8000 on average. Though there's some things that have to be taken into account: Was the viewcount system updated recently and shows the amount of views on blogs correctly now. Maybe few years ago the system calculated views incorretly and showed more views for a blog than it had in reality. I don't know, but if the view count system was not changed then it means new blogs are now getting much less views than few years ago. One could also argue that maybe the blog section just has gotten less popular, however i would disagree with this since the blog section is probably one of the most popular sections on MFC.
I've noticed the frontpage pictures are now mostly from the same members every week with few new expections. Item pages seem to be getting less comments than few years ago, but i need go through more item entries before i can be more certain if that is correct or not. It's just weird that it seems the activity on this site seems be lower nowdays while this hobby is getting more popular. Maybe people are becoming fed up of this site and just leaving.
Could MFC be dying or just going through low phase of activity? :D Could the price increase of figures be part of the reason?


Figure fm went through the same thing. But way more in the beginning, I noticed that as prices went up there were a few blogs talking about it but just as on here they got a lot of backlash due to fanboys/fangirls not wanting to accept reality and giving excuses to why the prices are totally justified. Blogs started to slow down and pretty much turn into all FS entries. Most of the popular, highly active members dropped out because of that (alongside with Danny kind of becoming a jerk, nicest way to say this).
I noticed a few came over to this place for a few reasons, to sell and to find cheaper pre-owned figures.

Mfc is just now starting to turn to that. People are finally starting to understand and realize that the prices are going out of control. The interest in anime might stay but people just can't afford it anymore. I doubt they're really losing interest, I think it's more the fact that because they aren't willing to spent as much anymore they can't really talk along about things anymore.

But there are quite some other things as well that I spotted. Figures aren't really selling in the same way anymore. Might just be me but I feel like they're selling less figures of newer series than they used to.
Which might be a cause for the price raise. They seem so focused on current popular anime and such but by the time they actually release a figure the anime's already almost forgotten (figure of speaking). Because of the increase in popularity for this hobby, companies started to see themselves as actual world wide companies instead of hobby specialist (if that makes any sense). Focusing more on the hype than on true fans, creating in bigger bulks, trying to sell a lot in a short time instead of selling in a steady pace.

But again, this is all coming out of me, not actual facts that I have on paper.
But I do raise a question with this, how often do you see people new to the hobby, to anime, jump from one thing to the other, completely ignoring/forgetting their first interest?
I personally see it all the time, people who over time just completely lose interest in an anime series they deemed as being their favorite and what not (along with the waifu crap and things, they also jump from one to the next, hence I find it total bs). I do believe that this has a lot to do with the anime itself as well, not really having a deep meaning and such to which people can really latch onto.

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