YuanMoriExamples: peterpayne.com/... (Image source: www.pixiv.net/m... )
peterpayne.com/... (Image source: www.pixiv.net/m... )
Both above examples are fanart that has been edited to advertise JList and posted without sourcing the actual artist. Because no sources are given, I'm assuming this is being done without permission.
Yet, despite this happening more than once and JList often using fan art to advertise their store no one has said or done anything about it.
I like to draw myself, and if someone were using my art like this I'd be pretty upset. Can we try and send the message to Peter Payne that this is not acceptable? There is plenty of official art to use out there without leeching off the hard work of other fans.
I've called him out on it myself, but I'm only one person and I've been ignored.
peterpayne.com/... (Image source: www.pixiv.net/m... )
Both above examples are fanart that has been edited to advertise JList and posted without sourcing the actual artist. Because no sources are given, I'm assuming this is being done without permission.
Yet, despite this happening more than once and JList often using fan art to advertise their store no one has said or done anything about it.
I like to draw myself, and if someone were using my art like this I'd be pretty upset. Can we try and send the message to Peter Payne that this is not acceptable? There is plenty of official art to use out there without leeching off the hard work of other fans.
I've called him out on it myself, but I'm only one person and I've been ignored.
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Yeah, they steal art all the time and put it on their shirts. There was a big kerfuffle a few years ago when it was discovered that they literally just took a drawing someone made and posted on /a/ and slapped it on a shirt without giving any credit or anything. The artist contacted them about it with proof that they were the ones who made it, but all they did in response was add "BASED ON A WACKY 4CHAN MEME!" to the item listing without crediting the guy or removing the listing.
Long story short, fuck J-List, those guys have no qualms with stealing people's art and profiting off of it.
They said that their illustration is definitely being used but since it's only being used for promotion, they don't really mind. They do want to try contacting JList though. Sounds to me like while they don't mind having their art used, they might not really like the idea of it being used without permission.
I've not yet received any reply from the person who drew the other image.
It's about the justification thought process, not the crime or the resulted pain of the victim. I'm not dumb enough to think my art being turned into a button on Jlist is the equivalent of being a rape victim. But the blaming of the victim to avoid the consequences certainly is similar, even if the crime is not.
It doesn't change the fact that you used rape as an example to win an argument. That has nothing to do with the matter.
Furthermore is the comparison ridiculous, this discussion is about who owns the right to art that is distributed online, while the blaming of rape victims is the result of systematic oppression of women and their sexuality since the dawn of mankind (or at the very least Christianity).
There are no similarities. At all.
Here's a tip for future debates: don't bring up sexual assault where it is irrelevant. Just don't.
Did you really fucking compare ART THEFT to RAPE?
You should be so ashamed of yourself and the same goes to everyone who up-rated this comment.
The comparison wasn't for rape. It was for the constant excuse. That the people who don't give a shit about what they're doing think they're justified for what ever they've done because the victim of which ever crime didn't go the extra mile.
It's about the justification thought process, not the crime or the resulted pain of the victim. I'm not dumb enough to think my art being turned into a button on Jlist is the equivalent of being a rape victim. But the blaming of the victim to avoid the consequences certainly is similar, even if the crime is not.
...and pretty girls who don't want to get raped shouldn't wear short skirts, amIright?
I feel like my eyes just fucking popped out of my skull because I can't believe what I'm actually reading.
Did you really fucking compare ART THEFT to RAPE?
You should be so ashamed of yourself and the same goes to everyone who up-rated this comment.
It are not edited images, as in your blog, but still it's quite for promotional purposes without crediting (I think). Also with original screenshots from anime, a copyright should be named to the creators/studio where the anime is from.
I noticed this a while back when browsing their site, and my thought at that time was "I wonder how long they can go on with this before they get in trouble with it". :P
Copyright violation is copyright violation. It's never theft.
In my country, for example, copyright violation is considered a form of fraud.
Hrm, seems that is correct
1.criminal law the dishonest taking of property belonging to another person with the intention of depriving the owner permanently of its possession
'Art Theft' tends to be the blanket term regardless, as it's easier to use and everyone knows what you mean.
Copyright violation is copyright violation. It's never theft.
In my country, for example, copyright violation is considered a form of fraud.
Yes, the copyright exists the second you create fanart. But "you" do not own it. The one that owns the original character does.
Fan-artists have essentially no rights to their art and cannot take actions or sue on behalf of him/herself because he/she does not own the copyright to it.
They own the art, not the character. You can't go suing people over derivative works like fanart, but you can ask that they cease and desist using it. Even if the company owns the character they just can't use fanart of the character without permission. They CAN ask that the fanart be stopped though.