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Figure under water!?Figure under water!?

Hi there!

After doing figure photos for a while now, the one thing I always wanted to do is shooting a (PVC) figure under water in a fish tank. (fresh water tank). But since I never had a good subject, and don’t own a fish tank myself, I shoved this project aside.

To my own surprise a friend of mine was so stunned by my work that he insists to lend me his “Deep Sea Girl Miku” for this project. I was flattered but at the same time my girlfriend and I had concerns that the water (even if it’s only for a relatively short amount of time) will damage the figure over time. More precisely that she might get sticky in a while because of that treatment.

In my opinion fresh water should not harm modern figures and she should be fine. But since it’s not a cheap figure I wanted to ask if anyone here has experience or any input on this topic. Maybe there is someone here who did the same thing already whiling to share this thoughts.

I guess finding someone nearby with a fish tank would not be much a problem in the age of social media but first I’ve to convince my GF and myself that I wouldn’t harm the figure.

Thank you for your help!

Edi Edhutschek
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Ok, thank you very much for your kind advice. By now I got everything together!
Tomorrow I will finally do this! No fish or plant will be harmed and this might be
one of the greatest compositions I've ever done. Either that or a complete failure.
Wish me luck guys!
1 year ago
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Rajke Ca fanatic
edhutschek (1 year ago) #18771735Wow, so much usefull information. Thank you Rajke!
Sadly I only "have" the original figure and I also don't know where to get a bootleg XD
Plus, figure bootlegs trend to have one major bad habit: Vedors try to charge you as much as for the original XD
As for the tank tips: Thanks a million. I will take all those under consideration when doing the shoot.
Most likely in April or May and of course I will post the results if there are any ^^

Youre welcome ;) looking forward to the photo's.
1 year ago
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Rajke (1 year ago) #18743584I have some tips for setting it up with normal water to keep the risk as small as possible.....

Wow, so much usefull information. Thank you Rajke!

Sadly I only "have" the original figure and I also don't know where to get a bootleg XD
Plus, figure bootlegs trend to have one major bad habit: Vedors try to charge you as much as for the original XD

As for the tank tips: Thanks a million. I will take all those under consideration when doing the shoot.
Most likely in April or May and of course I will post the results if there are any ^^
1 year ago
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Rajke Ca fanatic
edhutschek (1 year ago) #18671533Thank you very much for you detailed explanation. It’s good to hear something not only from the perspective of a collector as well as a person who knows fish tanks.
I’ve already came to the conclusion that doing this in a real established fish tank would be to dangerous for the biological life in it and also the figure. But on the other hand I found someone nearby who would give me their old empty tank. If I just prepare some decorations and fake plants compared with normal water from the pipe I guess it won’t be much harmful to the figure when exposed to that environment for a less than an hour.

I have some tips for setting it up with normal water to keep the risk as small as possible.
Clean the fishtank properly. And don't use stuff like soap but only warm water. Dry it carefully when you are done. Don't forget the outside bottom of the fishtank.
When your place your fishtank even if it is for a couple of hours place it on a styrofoam base, check carefully that there isn't any dirt or other stuff on it. This is to prevent that the fishtank breaks when you place water in it. As an example: a small piece of sand on the outside of the fishtank with 30 liter of water pushing on it can easily break the fishtank.
By preparing the decorations you need to do it the same way as by an actual fishtank. By the fake plants you need to keep them under hand warm water for a couple of minutes before you place them in the fishtank. In this way you get rid of dirt, paint leftovers etc. For the ground cover material: you have to sieve it properly and clean it with hand warm water (this will take some time). Most of the ground covering material has the bad habit that it gives of a lot. When you have placed it in the fishtank and add the water you have to wait for 2 hours before you place a figure in it. I recommend rough material instead of a sand like bottom.
Don't use wood or tropical wood even if it is specially made for a fishtank. Wood is a very dangerous material to work with in a fishtank. Before you can place it in a fishtank you have to coock it because some insects lays there eggs in it and wood has the bad habit for making your water brown. It takes 3 months before the effect of the wood is mostly gone. thus again: don't use wood.
Don't add the filter: Most of the filter material today has active coil. You don't want that in you water.
Keep the amount of metal material to a minimum. Metal has the ability to rise the KH ratio of the water and with that it has an influence on the PH.
Fishing line is your best friend. When you have something that would not stay on the place you want use some fishing line.
You know these things that makes bubbles in the water? These things have the function to aerate the water. I highly recommend this item because your fishtank looks more real and it prevents legionella bacteria to multiply. This bacteria grows a lot faster than you think.
If you want some extra lights in the bottom of your fishtank i recommend a DecoLight from the company Superfish. I think for making pictures it a helpfull tool. I use it in my fishtank for the assimilation proces of the plants. But because it has different colors of light it would be usefull for making photo's.
And my last tip: You mention that you want to use a deep sea Miku. I guess you mean this figure? ITEM #143923 This is the first time that i recommend a bootleg (sadly i bought accidently this bootleg). There is a bootleg version of this figure that has the same package as the original. The eyes are different but the rest of the figure looks not that bad for a bootleg. If you can find that bootleg i would recommend it instead of using the original.
That was it for the tips i hope that these will help you.
Don't forget to show the final results ;)
1 year ago
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Rajke (1 year ago) #18670932A late reaction but i hope it is still usefull:
The water used in a fishtank is indeed dangerous to a figure. Let me explain why: To maintain a good balance in a fishtank we can add a lot of stuff. Some of them are biological and some chemical. This variates from plant food to bacteria and most important; you can't see it on the color of the water.
There are 2 kind of fishtanks: Salt and fresh water. A salt water fishtank has a PH around 8 and a fresh water fishtank has mostly a PH between 6,4 to 7,5 , you see the lower PH more often in a fishtank with lobsters or shrimps. Neutral PH is 7. It looks just like one number but it has a lot of influence on the material (including figures) and living beings inside the fishtank. I don't know what kind of influence the KH scale has but the biological rule is that when the PH rises the KH also rises and when the PH drops the KH also drops. The KH stands for the hardness of the water in combination with the amount of calcium. I have not much experience with a salt water fishtank so the next info is specefic for the fresh water fishtank. Besides the PH and KH there is another important balance in a fishtank. The nitrite (NO2), nitrate (NO3) and ammoniac (NH3) cycle. A person that maintains a fishtank uses bacteria or other chemical stuff to maintain a balance in this cycle. The smell of the fishtank gives a good indication about the ammoniac. For these main reason's the fishtank ornaments you can buy in stores are made and paint from material that can maintain in the fishtank. The figures we collect aren't made for this purpose. When you place a figure in the fishtank there is a high chance it can do a lot of damage in the fishtank but it also can recieve a lot of damage.


Thank you very much for you detailed explanation. It’s good to hear something not only from the perspective of a collector as well as a person who knows fish tanks.

I’ve already came to the conclusion that doing this in a real established fish tank would be to dangerous for the biological life in it and also the figure. But on the other hand I found someone nearby who would give me their old empty tank. If I just prepare some decorations and fake plants compared with normal water from the pipe I guess it won’t be much harmful to the figure when exposed to that environment for a less than an hour.
1 year ago
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Rajke Ca fanatic
A late reaction but i hope it is still usefull:

The water used in a fishtank is indeed dangerous to a figure. Let me explain why: To maintain a good balance in a fishtank we can add a lot of stuff. Some of them are biological and some chemical. This variates from plant food to bacteria and most important; you can't see it on the color of the water.
There are 2 kind of fishtanks: Salt and fresh water. A salt water fishtank has a PH around 8 and a fresh water fishtank has mostly a PH between 6,4 to 7,5 , you see the lower PH more often in a fishtank with lobsters or shrimps. Neutral PH is 7. It looks just like one number but it has a lot of influence on the material (including figures) and living beings inside the fishtank. I don't know what kind of influence the KH scale has but the biological rule is that when the PH rises the KH also rises and when the PH drops the KH also drops. The KH stands for the hardness of the water in combination with the amount of calcium. I have not much experience with a salt water fishtank so the next info is specefic for the fresh water fishtank. Besides the PH and KH there is another important balance in a fishtank. The nitrite (NO2), nitrate (NO3) and ammoniac (NH3) cycle. A person that maintains a fishtank uses bacteria or other chemical stuff to maintain a balance in this cycle. The smell of the fishtank gives a good indication about the ammoniac. For these main reason's the fishtank ornaments you can buy in stores are made and paint from material that can maintain in the fishtank. The figures we collect aren't made for this purpose. When you place a figure in the fishtank there is a high chance it can do a lot of damage in the fishtank but it also can recieve a lot of damage.
1 year ago
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bambipie (1 year ago) #18591585I don't know how helpful this will be: www.akibaphotog...

Ok, this is awesome. Thanks for sharing!
1 year ago
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1 year ago
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Fresh water and a short duration should be totally fine. I won't recommend heating the water (and you shouldn't have the need to for photography) or adding any chemicals/minerals/contaminants/life or leaving the figure inside for days or weeks of course.
1 year ago
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A figure in water should be fine I guess :) picture/748721&...
1 year ago
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