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Looking for Italian ProxyLooking for Italian Proxy

PiichukaPiichuka2 years agoAsk MFC
Hi MFC,

I recently found a grail of mine for sale for a great price, but the seller lives in Italy and only accepts payments through an Italian-exclusive method of payment called 'PostePay'. (From what I understand, it's like an Italian Paypal with a card.) No matter how hard I tried I couldn't find a way to send the payment to their PostePay without actually having a PostePay myself. (I can't get a PostePay account because it requires that I be an Italian citizen.) They are willing to ship the figure to the United States, but they really won't budge on the method of payment, so I'm stuck.

I really don't want to let this opportunity slip past me, so I was wondering if anyone knew of an Italian proxy website that is capable of redirecting my payment through PostePay somehow? Or if an MFC user that has PostePay wouldn't mind if they acted as a proxy for me? (I would pay you for the service, of course! I'd send you the money for the figure plus the shipping and for the favor; you wouldn't pay anything. The figure would come straight to me since I only need help with the method of payment. If you would be interested in helping me out, please comment or PM me!)

Thank you in advance! I really appreciate it!

EDIT: Thank you SO much to everyone who helped me out, and a special thanks to JOHNNYRAYFLO who let me use his PostePay account! You all rock! Thanks to everyone's help I was able to successfully attain my grail ITEM #41550. Thank you again!!
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Piichuka (2 years ago) #20298250mmm i see, i'm pretty worried about that now, do you think it would be rude of me to ask them if there is a way they can assure that i will receive the item just as an extra safety measure??
I don't think there's anything the seller can do to give you peace of mind when sending money to Postepay, you'll just need to trust him (which is perfectly understandable if you don't - I wouldn't). The only thing he can do is accept Paypal. His excuse for refusing means he has no way to retrieve the money from the Paypal balance to cash, his prepaid card or bank account. Which is wrong in the first place; moreover he could always keep the money on Paypal and use it to make purchases in the future (who doesn't pay with Paypal nowadays?).
Good luck with your grail! Let me know if you need any more help.
2 years ago
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Auri (2 years ago) #20298538Oh, I know that one! Though I believe it is linked to ebay and in the guidelines it clearly states not to send a payment to a prepaid card (postepay is one of those), so you could argue with them that on the guidelines it states not to send money to prepaid cards, also because you don't feel safe in doing so. Also, I can assure you, you can totally send the money from paypal to postepay, it takes 2-3 days for the money to appear on the card, but it is indeed possible. If you'd like, you can send me the ad via pm! I just want to look at it.
The page regarding payment methods is here (in italian): supporto.kijiji...
They also state clearly not to pay to a postepay card here: supporto.kijiji...
!!!EDIT: just to clarify the paypal to postepay thing: if you send them money on their paypal account, they can then transfer the money to their postepay. You CAN'T actually send money to a postepay through paypal.
Though there are a lot of different types of postepay now, and there's one with an IBAN code too, which is MASTERCARD, but this person seems to have the standard one which doesn't have the bank transfer code, but only a series of numbers to identify it.


ohhh okay, i see... this is all so complex haha, thank you for clarifying all this with me
okay! i will pm you!
2 years ago
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Auri (2 years ago) #20298812My sister does it all the time, you have to pay the fee for the transfer from paypal to postepay though (like 1€ I believe).

I do it too but only from paypal to my personal and linked postepay.. but with a stranger credit card is not possible, for what I know at least. :(

nevermind, I understand only now that you said that for what the seller says, sorry. XD
2 years ago
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JohnnyRayflo (2 years ago) #20298666really? when I try to send money from paypal to postepay the only option I have are my credit cards. D:
My sister does it all the time, you have to pay the fee for the transfer from paypal to postepay though (like 1€ I believe).
2 years ago
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Auri (2 years ago) #20298538Oh, I know that one! Though I believe it is linked to ebay and in the guidelines it clearly states not to send a payment to a prepaid card (postepay is one of those), so you could argue with them that on the guidelines it states not to send money to prepaid cards, also because you don't feel safe in doing so. Also, I can assure you, you can totally send the money from paypal to postepay, it takes 2-3 days for the money to appear on the card, but it is indeed possible. If you'd like, you can send me the ad via pm! I just want to look at it.
The page regarding payment methods is here (in italian): supporto.kijiji...
They also state clearly not to pay to a postepay card here: supporto.kijiji...


really? when I try to send money from paypal to postepay the only option I have are my credit cards. D:
2 years ago
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Piichuka (2 years ago) #20298460of course! it's a website called kijiji www.kijiji.it/
also thank you again for your help!!


Oh, I know that one! Though I believe it is linked to ebay and in the guidelines it clearly states not to send a payment to a prepaid card (postepay is one of those), so you could argue with them that on the guidelines it states not to send money to prepaid cards, also because you don't feel safe in doing so. Also, I can assure you, you can totally send the money from paypal to postepay, it takes 2-3 days for the money to appear on the card, but it is indeed possible. If you'd like, you can send me the ad via pm! I just want to look at it.

The page regarding payment methods is here (in italian): supporto.kijiji...

They also state clearly not to pay to a postepay card here: supporto.kijiji...

!!!EDIT: just to clarify the paypal to postepay thing: if you send them money on their paypal account, they can then transfer the money to their postepay. You CAN'T actually send money to a postepay through paypal.
Though there are a lot of different types of postepay now, and there's one with an IBAN code too, which is MASTERCARD, but this person seems to have the standard one which doesn't have the bank transfer code, but only a series of numbers to identify it.
2 years ago
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Auri (2 years ago) #20298368People don't use paypal as much as postepay here, so they can get the money from the debit card or use the debit card to pay. What they mean was literally how google translated it: they won't be able to get the money on the card (which is not true by any means), so they won't be able to use that money.
Would you mind telling me what website did you find this ad on?

of course! it's a website called kijiji www.kijiji.it/
also thank you again for your help!!
2 years ago
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Piichuka (2 years ago) #20298175yeah, i was hoping to find someone here on mfc that could either redirect me to some kind of italian proxy, or i would send the money to an mfc user with a postepay account so they could send the money to the seller.
although, now i'm kinda nervous about scamming... i think it'd be wonderful if the seller could make a paypal, but i already asked about it and i don't want to bother them so much about it, idk ahhh, they said "no mi dispiace ma non accetto paypal, in quanto i soldi mi rimangono sulla paypal" but i don't really know what they mean
but thank you so much for your help!!


People don't use paypal as much as postepay here, so they can get the money from the debit card or use the debit card to pay. What they mean was literally how google translated it: they won't be able to get the money on the card (which is not true by any means), so they won't be able to use that money.
Would you mind telling me what website did you find this ad on?
2 years ago
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Shaolan-kun (2 years ago) #20278890Postepay is a prepaid card issued by Italian Postal Service. The owner can use online payment services (like their own Postal Bank account, not sure about Paypal) to put money on it. Otherwise anyone else can "send" money to the card balance at any Post office, just by telling the card number and owner's name and pay with cash. This is what the seller is asking you to do.
As others have pointed out, there are security risks involved with purchasing items with this payment method. Should anything go wrong, you have no protection whatsoever for the money you sent to the card balance.
I have seen sellers here refusing to accept Paypal because they have been scammed in the past by unscrupulous buyers (as Paypal always favors the buyers, it can be easy to exploit and scam an inexperienced seller). This might be the reason they only accept Postepay?

mmm i see, i'm pretty worried about that now, do you think it would be rude of me to ask them if there is a way they can assure that i will receive the item just as an extra safety measure??

JohnnyRayflo (2 years ago) #20272666I can help you, but of course postepay is good if the seller have very good feedback and all (maybe I can help to check it too).
Is not that fishy, lot of people here use postepay but not paypal and don't know paypal at all.
You can send money from paypal to postepay only if is the one linked with your paypal account, so not to a seller.

I WOULD BE SO GRATEFUL IF YOU COULD HELP ME OUT, but the website they posted the ad on doesn't have a feedback system (i think, the site is in italian so it's kind of tough to navigate sometimes) so idrk, yeah i would be super grateful if you could also look over their page as well? may i pm you?
2 years ago
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Auri (2 years ago) #20274896Many others have already explained, PostePay is a debit card, a collaboration between Visa and our postal service (Poste Italiane). We usually charge money on the other person's postepay at the postal office or other places (I don't think there's a word for that in english...), also online through the postal service website, but that's only if you have another "postepay" or an online bank account. Anyway, as it is a type of card, the other person can just make a paypal account. If they don't want to you can always send the money to another italian person and they will send that to the seller on their postepay.
I never had problems with postepay, but yeah, you should trust the seller if you wish to buy like that because our postal service sucks in terms of customer service.
I also use a postepay for my payments, but it's linked to my paypal obviously, it's just an easy debit card to make, without any costs involved and anyone can charge it (in Italy) just with the name of the owner and the number of the card. Many people in Italy don't even know how to spell "paypal" LOL
EDIT: if you wish, of course I can help even explaining in italian to the seller how to make a paypal account!

yeah, i was hoping to find someone here on mfc that could either redirect me to some kind of italian proxy, or i would send the money to an mfc user with a postepay account so they could send the money to the seller.
although, now i'm kinda nervous about scamming... i think it'd be wonderful if the seller could make a paypal, but i already asked about it and i don't want to bother them so much about it, idk ahhh, they said "no mi dispiace ma non accetto paypal, in quanto i soldi mi rimangono sulla paypal" but i don't really know what they mean
but thank you so much for your help!!
2 years ago
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