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galabluegalablue11 days agoAsk MFC
Can we be honest and have a good discussion ... what do you guys consider "MIB" when selling a figure? I've come across so many posts on this website that state a figure is "MIB" ... but it's been opened and displayed. How can a figure be "mint IN box" if it's out of the box? If I'm paying MIB prices and looking for a NIB figure, I expect to be the one to break the factory seal. In my opinion, anything that's been opened is no longer mint/new in box.

So, if you guys purchased a "MIB" figure, what would you expect to get in the mail? And what do you consider to be "NIB"/"MIB"?
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28pt
From what I know and the definitions me and my community uses, MISB (mint in sealed box) refers to items that are pretty much the same as straight from retailers with their tapes and seals still intact, and the figure genuinely never removed from the box. MIB/NIB (mint in box or new in box) usually refers to an item that has been taken out (i.e. the seals and tapes broken), but not exposed for long, usually for checking for damage or missing parts and placed back in the box. This sometimes means that some wrappings or plastic might be out of place, but the figure itself is "new".

Sometimes MIB can also mean that the seals or tapes were broken but the item never actually removed. This distinguishes itself from NIB, the previous definition I mentioned. It would be good to ask a seller to clarify which they are referring to
11 days ago
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Gokanma (10 days ago) #75455913Or do I leave it sealed because it will fetch a better price and make the buyer happier it’s completely brand new but run the risk there is a defect inside?
Genuinely asking as I’m in that position as a seller.


I agree with Morbid on most parts. IMO, I think it depends on what the figure is that you are selling, how old it is, if its known to have defects, etc. I think definitely decide what you want to do before you sell it, because you don't want to open it for a seller only to have them back out. Honestly, I feel like anyone who is buying NIB/MIB knows that there is a risk the figure will have issues as you could not have examined it.
10 days ago
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Elise_Grimwald Genius Puppeteer
MIB and NIB would mean that the figure is in the box, sealed, and never ever opened, to me. Unless the user specified otherwise, that is what I would assume NIB or MIB would mean. I'd be ticked if I got an opened figure when MIB is used as the condition. :/.

Unless it's a trading figure or a prize figure (because the person would have to take the figure out to take a picture or to check it), seals should be unopened for sure. A figure that has the tape opened but is not a prize figure or trading figure would be considered like new, or new with tape broken.
10 days ago
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Moribundead モリバンデッド
Gokanma (10 days ago) #75455913The whole opened once to check that figure is ok may as well translate to ‘displayed and used but no marks on it’. It’s impossible to know otherwise.
Question: I have a figure sealed in a box to sell. Would a buyer prefer to buy it that way? What if it had a shipping or manufacture caused defect? That’s not going to be nice for buyer or seller. If I’m the seller I would be wise to inspect it upon receiving it so I can make a refund or replacement claim.
Or do I leave it sealed because it will fetch a better price and make the buyer happier it’s completely brand new but run the risk there is a defect inside?
Genuinely asking as I’m in that position as a seller.


My first thought:
If a buyer wants to buy it sealed, perhaps to never open it themselves; how are they ever gonna find out there is a defect (if that was the case)?
(kinda makes me question what's actually sitting around in people's collections)




But actually; the morality of your two options is very important:

1. Do not open it, get a better price and
-never know if it was damaged if left unopened(/opened but no message was sent (impossible to determine which))
-pay them a refund if opened and turns out to be damaged (+ you will never know when it was damaged)
-get a message of thanks from the buyer if opened and undamaged

2. Inspect the figure, be sure of what you are selling and even if there's no message you'll know the figure is alright.

Since you are concerned about it, I'd suggest you go for no. 2.
10 days ago
2pt
The whole opened once to check that figure is ok may as well translate to ‘displayed and used but no marks on it’. It’s impossible to know otherwise.
Question: I have a figure sealed in a box to sell. Would a buyer prefer to buy it that way? What if it had a shipping or manufacture caused defect? That’s not going to be nice for buyer or seller. If I’m the seller I would be wise to inspect it upon receiving it so I can make a refund or replacement claim.
Or do I leave it sealed because it will fetch a better price and make the buyer happier it’s completely brand new but run the risk there is a defect inside?
Genuinely asking as I’m in that position as a seller.
10 days ago
2pt
Mib to me always meant unopened and the box is in perfect condition too. It cant be mint if its opened or used.
10 days ago
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galablue (11 days ago) #75453289
Question for ya: would the difference between MIB and NIB then be the quality of the box? Like would MIB be a mint figure with a mint box, and NIB would be a mint figure in a new (but possibly damaged) box? Or are MIB and NIB one in the same?

NIB, I believe, stands for new in box. So the figure might have been taken out for a short period. So there should be no damage or anything missing, but it's not sealed either. Key word being new.
I could also see some use it to describe box damage, but I can also see some use it for a sealed but damaged figure. Like I've had a couple figures arrive with no box damage and still sealed, but the hair broke off or the head popped off in box, possibly due to manufacturing error.

In any event, I always ask for pictures to confirm the condition(I usually only buy sealed), unless I'm buying on ebay with a clear description and the money back guarentee.
11 days ago
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leith (11 days ago) #75430668I view the grade as an indication and not put too much emphasis on it. I mean for MISB and MIB, I expect the figure to be pristine whether it has been opened or not (no dust, scratches, and discoloration).

Hm, I have heard of the box techniques (and have seen one reviewer point out that its possible on certain figures), but it's funny because to me, something can be MIB with scratches, dust, and discoloration -- because maybe that's how it was packaged and put in the box. It's all very complicated.

ShadMaria4ever (11 days ago) #75452757For me, MIB is sealed, with no damage to the box. I.e. same as if it came from the retail store.

Question for ya: would the difference between MIB and NIB then be the quality of the box? Like would MIB be a mint figure with a mint box, and NIB would be a mint figure in a new (but possibly damaged) box? Or are MIB and NIB one in the same?
11 days ago
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gwendal738-2 (11 days ago) #75426722MIB is Mint... IN box. In fact, even AmiAmi's A rank preowned are what I'd consider MIB, because they always have the seal still on them. If it was opened or tampered with, they'd rate it an A-. So I expect the standards to be the same everywhere. If you've opened it, broken the seal on the box, even if you've never taken it out of the blister? That is NOT MIB. Because the seal has already been opened.

I agree with you on this 100 percent. To me, mint is MINT, like something is mint condition. I get a little frustrated when I see posts on MFC that claim a figure is MIB but they've had it displayed for x amount of time.

AhagonUmiko (11 days ago) #75428102I'd prefer to buy a used "B-tier" item (with lots of photos and a thorough description of its specific condition) rather than some shady "mint" figure. Resealing the boxes is a trivial task to do, and in case if you end up getting something fishy - the seller would just likely shrug it off: "I've never opened it, I'm sorry it's broken/damaged/defective."

This is kind of a good policy. I've purchased both MIB figures and "used" figures before, and I've had good experiences each time. Sometimes purchasing a used figure is better as you can see photographs of exactly what you're getting, and you're right about resealing/opening the box from underneath.

BeatlesPkmnFan (11 days ago) #75428243Like an item itself can be "mint" without being "mint in box", if the figure itself has been removed before but has no damage.

OK, I also agree with this. A figure itself can be mint condition but I don't understand how it can be MIB if it's out of the box lol.
11 days ago
2pt
For me, MIB is sealed, with no damage to the box. I.e. same as if it came from the retail store.

For another perspective: I also have a fair amount of trading card collecting experience; a card is never really described as "mint" unless it's been offically graded. Always "near mint (NM)" or lower. I guess the figure equilvalent would be "like new".
11 days ago
4pt
I view the grade as an indication and not put too much emphasis on it. I mean for MISB and MIB, I expect the figure to be pristine whether it has been opened or not (no dust, scratches, and discoloration). Like others have said, it's understandable if the seller wants to take out the figure to inspect because many things could happen in transit and the figure could be faulty in the first place. If there is any issue, they could file a claim and avoid unpleasant situations when selling the figure.

I don't put too much emphasis on the grade because it's all based on trust. There is a nifty trick I learned from a youtuber on how to open certain types of boxes without breaking the seals. So hypothetically speaking, I could open the box while keeping the seal intact, display the figure, and then sell it later claiming it's MISB. Also, I heard there are resealed boxes by manufacturers to further complicate the issue. I think as long as you get the figure in pristine condition then it's all that matters.
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