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    TomTheCat (4 years ago) #2360585What, that's a Japanese military backpack? o_O Looks more like the handbag of a fashion doll XD
    Well, if school uniforms are just as plenty as military items in Mecha Musume, I think we'll never know indeed! As I said, I know nothing about the source, so who am I to argue. I assume I was just misled by all those military references.
    Don't worry about bothering Humikane with this, it really is not important at all.
    And don't let yourself get distracted too much by your research into Japanese military equipment. It's interesting for sure, but one can easily get lost in those vast fields ;-)


    Well, apparantly it can be put on your back according to the info i found. xD But it seems that the other picture I posted is a more regularly used bag!

    Oh no, I wasn't planning on contacting Humikane with this, haha! I did once find an e-mail address from him on an (old) website, but I have no idea if he still uses that one. I plan one day to write him a big fan letter. ^///^ And my guess is that that emailaddress is the only way in trying to get in contact with him. He tends to stay quite anonymous (he also doesn't have any pictures of himself online, and doesn't let out much personal info), so I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't answer to (much) e-mails, but it never hurts to try!

    Well when I have a specific thing to look for (such as now with the bags) I don't mind, but it's just too much for me to become an expert on (Japanese) military in general. I'm more the person that likes the looks, which is why I'm more of a Mecha Musume fan than a history fan! ;)
    4 years ago
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    Maakie (4 years ago) #2359867http://cdn.needsupply.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/460x590/e9607dc71bc010050ca2ae6f644b84c1/1/0/1005705_1.jpg
    What, that's a Japanese military backpack? o_O Looks more like the handbag of a fashion doll XD

    Well, if school uniforms are just as plenty as military items in Mecha Musume, I think we'll never know indeed! As I said, I know nothing about the source, so who am I to argue. I assume I was just misled by all those military references.

    Don't worry about bothering Humikane with this, it really is not important at all.

    And don't let yourself get distracted too much by your research into Japanese military equipment. It's interesting for sure, but one can easily get lost in those vast fields ;-)
    4 years ago
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    TomTheCat (4 years ago) #2355834While I'm generally interested in military equipment, I'm far from being an expert on the topic. But I admit that I'm even less of an expert on Mecha Musume!
    That said, I can only assume that Japanese soldiers used some sort of backpacks at some point in history. The somewhat cumbersome knapsack had its star already waning before World War Two in most armies around the world, so I can't be sure if WWII Japanese soldiers were issued a standardized container that was carried like a school backpack.
    But still, with all the military theme going on with this figure and this source, I find it highly unlikely that she's indeed having a school backpack. Or is she some sort of supergirl who's still at school but transforms into the 5shikisen when called upon? I wouldn't know! XD Either way, it's not really important. She's having a backpack, school or military, and that's it...


    Personally I'm interested in military equipment, but I know a lot more about Mecha Musume (not sure if I would call myself an expert though :P). In a lot of Mecha Musume designs you see school uniforms and outfit based on sailor clothing. Because of that (although 5shikisen doesn't wear any of those outfits) I generally thought of a school backpack when I saw hers. To be absolutely sure I think the only thing we can do is send Humikane Shimada himself a message to ask it. Although I have heard quite a lot in the past that Mecha Musume artists say they let themselves be "inspired" by military equipment and not generally design characters or props to look like something that existed, so that could also be the case here! ;)

    I looked a bit more into backpacks Japanese soldiers use and have used and I found results like:

    http://cdn.needsupply.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/460x590/e9607dc71bc010050ca2ae6f644b84c1/1/0/1005705_1.jpg

    In there too! But a lot of the backpacks are these more general designs like:

    http://www.echobasetoys.com/More_12_inch_Stuff_Pics/DID_Pics/DID-Parts/Japanese_Parts_Pics/DID8-P110.jpg

    This one here was used during WWII. The first one I showed a pictures off I couldn't find in which years it was used.

    Since 5shikisen was directly based off multiple pieces of artwork, she doesn't have any background information. So I think we will never know! xD If Humikane already had the mindset of which he created Strike Witches with, that would mean that 5shikisen is trained to use the plane legs and lives on a base.

    Anyway, I think this is an interesting discussion, because I'm now looking a lot more information about military items used in Japan!
    4 years ago
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    Maakie (4 years ago) #2317059Thank you very much! ^^ And hrrmm, about the backpack, I'm doubting a bit. Multiple of my Mecha Musume figures have military backpacks, but those are German and African units. I'm not sure if Japanese units also used bags like that?
    And ah of course! I was pretty frustrated while writing, because I couldn't come up with the name of the flag, thank you! I will edit it in the review!

    While I'm generally interested in military equipment, I'm far from being an expert on the topic. But I admit that I'm even less of an expert on Mecha Musume!

    That said, I can only assume that Japanese soldiers used some sort of backpacks at some point in history. The somewhat cumbersome knapsack had its star already waning before World War Two in most armies around the world, so I can't be sure if WWII Japanese soldiers were issued a standardized container that was carried like a school backpack.

    But still, with all the military theme going on with this figure and this source, I find it highly unlikely that she's indeed having a school backpack. Or is she some sort of supergirl who's still at school but transforms into the 5shikisen when called upon? I wouldn't know! XD Either way, it's not really important. She's having a backpack, school or military, and that's it...
    4 years ago
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    VioFitz (4 years ago) #2317201Her hands seamlines freaks me out but, overall sculpt is fine. Although, I feel like some paintjob are slightly messy. Once again, that is one good review!

    Ugh yeah, the hands are horrible. The figure has so much nice details at other places I don't understand how they could "forget" to fix her hands...

    Thank you very much! ^^
    4 years ago
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    Her hands seamlines freaks me out but, overall sculpt is fine. Although, I feel like some paintjob are slightly messy. Once again, that is one good review!
    4 years ago
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    TomTheCat (4 years ago) #2313606That's a very nice and exhaustive review - well done! However I think that she doesn't have a "school backpack". In keeping with the military theme, it should be called a knapsack (French: giberne, German: Tornister).
    The motif on the inside of the box cover and on the back of the booklet is the so-called "Rising Sun Flag". It's obviously a variation of the Hinomaru, the Japanese flag (A red disc on a white backdrop). The 16 added sunrays give it a spectacular look. This Rising Sun Flag has been the flag of the Japanese Army from 1870 until 1945. A further modification of this Rising Sun Flag, with the red disc moved slightly out of the center of the flag, was the flag of the Japanese Navy, also from 1870 - 1945. It was reintroduced as the flag of the Japanese Navy in 1954.


    Thank you very much! ^^ And hrrmm, about the backpack, I'm doubting a bit. Multiple of my Mecha Musume figures have military backpacks, but those are German and African units. I'm not sure if Japanese units also used bags like that?

    And ah of course! I was pretty frustrated while writing, because I couldn't come up with the name of the flag, thank you! I will edit it in the review!

    mikeymikemichael (4 years ago) #2313814Yeah the Me 109E-3 is nice, and obviously the proto Barkhorn, and the Re2200 is the proto Luccini. The Mig 60, IMO is a fusion of Ella and Sonya's characters, the roots of SW.

    Hrmmm I didn't think about Mig60 being Ella/Sonya, hrmmm. When it comes to art I see the likeness, but I don't see it much with the figure (but that's probably also because of her face)!

    pauldy (4 years ago) #2314541For a figure that was made in the previous decade... this was good for it's time
    Although I personally dislike how Toranoana painted her eyes.. Even the MiG-60 has better looking eyes, at least for me ^^
    ALTER and other manufacturers into Strike Witches & other Mecha Musume seem to have raised the bar tenfold in terms of quality, accuracy & details. Now there's an explosion of Mecha Musumue figures (or maybe it's just KanColle)
    People might look down on these older figures but these were one of the first hence, memorable..
    Nice Review ^^
    Congratulations on getting all 4 plane girls =D


    Oh yeah, it's pretty good for her age! Especially if you look at her from a distance! :)

    Hrmm, I actually quite like the eyes, but everybody's different! ;D

    I think it's just Kan Colle. :P For me it looks like Strike Witches has been on this steady pace of here and there an Alter figure and sometimes a few prize figrues. When you think of Mecha Musume as in, Humikane's original designs, there actually hasn't happened much since this set: ENCYCLOPEDIA #23362 of which the last one came out 3 years ago (I remember missing out the pre-orders and stressing to get them on the aftermarket! :P).

    Personally I don't look down on them, but I actually think that some of the trading figure sets of these designs look better. It's also easier to accept minor flaws with those because of their size and prize.

    And thank you very much! :D Now my next Mecha Musume-related focus will be to get all the trading figures, but I will do that in a slower pace. xD
    4 years ago
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    For a figure that was made in the previous decade... this was good for it's time

    Although I personally dislike how Toranoana painted her eyes.. Even the MiG-60 has better looking eyes, at least for me ^^


    ALTER and other manufacturers into Strike Witches & other Mecha Musume seem to have raised the bar tenfold in terms of quality, accuracy & details. Now there's an explosion of Mecha Musumue figures (or maybe it's just KanColle)


    People might look down on these older figures but these were one of the first hence, memorable..


    Nice Review ^^
    Congratulations on getting all 4 plane girls =D
    4 years ago
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    Yeah the Me 109E-3 is nice, and obviously the proto Barkhorn, and the Re2200 is the proto Luccini. The Mig 60, IMO is a fusion of Ella and Sonya's characters, the roots of SW.
    4 years ago
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    That's a very nice and exhaustive review - well done! However I think that she doesn't have a "school backpack". In keeping with the military theme, it should be called a knapsack (French: giberne, German: Tornister).

    The motif on the inside of the box cover and on the back of the booklet is the so-called "Rising Sun Flag". It's obviously a variation of the Hinomaru, the Japanese flag (A red disc on a white backdrop). The 16 added sunrays give it a spectacular look. This Rising Sun Flag has been the flag of the Japanese Army from 1870 until 1945. A further modification of this Rising Sun Flag, with the red disc moved slightly out of the center of the flag, was the flag of the Japanese Navy, also from 1870 - 1945. It was reintroduced as the flag of the Japanese Navy in 1954.
    4 years ago
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