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Revolution of our Times (English)

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We just got back from our trip to Japan. Before we went home we spent a couple of days in Hong Kong. We met up with some old university friends of mine who are part of the protest movement. Moved by their fight for liberty, Honoka bought a flag and sang their anthem to show her support.

Full article of Honoka & Kizuna AI's trip to Japan, Taiwan and Hong Kong will be posted soon.


Click here for the Chinese version of this picture.



A firestorm has stirred up in the comments, but the picture and more favorable comments are highly scored. So what to do?

  • 73%Keep it up. It is relevant to the trip and it's interesting to respond and engage in this discussion.
  • 21%Delete it. Anything too divisive in politics should be kept off. This is my happy place.
  • 6%Don't delete the picture, but leave it out of the article. The firestorm is annoying, but it did make it into top 5 pictures.
  • 95 votes

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34pt
I'm gonna leave a positive comment to make up for that other commenter trying to report you over this.

This is a nice photo! I hope that Honoka can help spread the message far and wide...
12 days ago
20pt
xShiroSakura Flagship
Well, MFC is not really the place to be discussing these things, but I don't think it's a bad idea to create awareness around this issue on different platforms.

We are free to express ourselves after all. If there were protests in the US and people were trying to create awareness around that people would be discussing it, but because it's China everyone has to be careful and censor everything just like they do? I don't really get it.

Maybe people, myself included, need to educate themselves more on the issue between China and HK before making statements, or maybe this is just the result of a clash between two very different cultures where one values "freedom" and one values "order". Either way I personally feel it should be okay to express your opinions if you can keep the conversation civil - that way we can maybe learn about the different aspects of the issue.
11 days ago
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4pt
Moeromoero Chinese Dress Hunter
ChocolateSpider (11 days ago) #68486183I wasn't referring to whether or not Chinese specifically would be upset by any of this. I'm referring to the whole of people in the comments and this site just saying they would like this place to be politics free in general.
And yes. I will admit that the more radical faction of the protest movement has gotten out of control. While I do not condone attacks on buildings that don't have anything to do with the conflict with the Chinese government, I understand psychologically how they have been driven into this state of mind. That is a criticism I made with my friends while I was there. I would have put this in my picture description, but I was limited by the number of words I could use. I was told by them there is a growing resistance and attempt to get them under control within the original peaceful faction of the movement.
I did actually see some of the protesters in action while I was there. Some of them were acting aggressive and that's when my friends along with some other protesters came in and made them stop. They scolded them and told them they are hurting the movement and not accomplishing anything this way. They then stopped and left before things got to serious. We will have to wait and see how this develops.
I don't just follow western news networks. I follow news sources from all across the world in several languages. I follow news sources in Hong Kong. Although I usually stay away from big corporate networks, especially in the west as they have developed a reputation of not being particularly trustworthy as of late. You cited CNN, but their trust ratings are terrible and just keep getting lower. That is the network I've seen anchors several times come to the defense of Antifa.


Fact is what you observes,witnesses and verifies. That's all.
What Media claims what....Who says what... those echo chambers aren't important anymore.
Because you were there, you saw things happened.
I believe you could think critically.

MFC is a global platform, so I believe this pic is fine.
Freedom and Justice are international core values.
Usually, these are what Mankind prefers. Glory to Mankind.
11 days ago
3pt
Happycheng (11 days ago) #68486172That is totally different story. Our Chinese won’t feel upset for your opinion on their surrendering. But what you did is different. You said you went to HK and saw everything but you didn’t see the violence and chaos. Stores can’t open, and everyone avoids hanging out for nearly two months. At the time the protests have deteriorated and changed into crime and rob, you stand out and support them. If you say that several months before, I think most of HK people even some Chinese will support you, but now everything is different. You need to learn more on this problem, not just from some of “friends” and west newspapers. And we see CNN admit the crime in protesters. It is really happening and even bloody than their report.

I wasn't referring to whether or not Chinese specifically would be upset by any of this. I'm referring to the whole of people in the comments and this site just saying they would like this place to be politics free in general.

And yes. I will admit that the more radical faction of the protest movement has gotten out of control. While I do not condone attacks on buildings that don't have anything to do with the conflict with the Chinese government, I understand psychologically how they have been driven into this state of mind. That is a criticism I made with my friends while I was there. I would have put this in my picture description, but I was limited by the number of words I could use. I was told by them there is a growing resistance and attempt to get them under control within the original peaceful faction of the movement.

I did actually see some of the protesters in action while I was there. Some of them were acting aggressive and that's when my friends along with some other protesters came in and made them stop. They scolded them and told them they are hurting the movement and not accomplishing anything this way. They then stopped and left before things got to serious. We will have to wait and see how this develops.

I don't just follow western news networks. I follow news sources from all across the world in several languages. I follow news sources in Hong Kong. Although I usually stay away from big corporate networks, especially in the west as they have developed a reputation of not being particularly trustworthy as of late. You cited CNN, but their trust ratings are terrible and just keep getting lower. That is the network I've seen anchors several times come to the defense of Antifa.
11 days ago
2pt
ChocolateSpider (11 days ago) #68486140That is fair. Politics, these days especially, is very stressful and it is getting harder to find sanctuary from it. Votes are showing strong support for leaving this picture up, but the no politics sentiment seems to be the most prevalent in the comments. So I've decided I'll leave this picture out of my vacation article.
Although we'll still likely see at least a couple of #BlizzardBoycott related pictures with Overwatch Nendoroids from some people here soon, which is connected to this subject. But I don't think those will be as divisive as this has been.


That is totally different story. Our Chinese won’t feel upset for your opinion on their surrendering. But what you did is different. You said you went to HK and saw everything but you didn’t see the violence and chaos. Stores can’t open, and everyone avoids hanging out for nearly two months. At the time the protests have deteriorated and changed into crime and rob, you stand out and support them. If you say that several months before, I think most of HK people even some Chinese will support you, but now everything is different. You need to learn more on this problem, not just from some of “friends” and west newspapers. And we see CNN admit the crime in protesters. It is really happening and even bloody than their report.
11 days ago
7pt
I don't know why people are so harsh here. As far as I know, I've seen some people mentioning about Politics(Trumps....) and that was okay, then why this is not okay?

Send solidarity from Switzerland/South Korea.
11 days ago
3pt
laprasdewgong (11 days ago) #68486133I like Myfigurecollection to be my haven from all the news and media out there.
We have enough bombardment from many other sources.
Only figure related themes here please. Please no politic arguments.


That is fair. Politics, these days especially, is very stressful and it is getting harder to find sanctuary from it. Votes are showing strong support for leaving this picture up, but the no politics sentiment seems to be the most prevalent in the comments. So I'll probably leave this out of the article so this specific subject doesn't fill up the comment section at the expense of the other content.

Although we'll still likely see at least a couple of #BlizzardBoycott related pictures with Overwatch Nendoroids from some people here soon, which is connected to this subject. But I don't think those will be as divisive as this has been.
11 days ago
4pt
I like Myfigurecollection to be my haven from all the news and media out there.
We have enough bombardment from many other sources.
Only figure related themes here please. Please no politic arguments.
11 days ago
4pt
WanderingWastrel (11 days ago) #68486122I remember the night of the USA Clinton/Trump election results, there was much posting about those results. I objected to those posts, as I thought political stuff was out of bounds for the board -- and I was told by the "powers that be" here, that those posts were perfectly fine.
If those were fine, this should be fine as well.


Oh yeah. I remember that week. That was something. There was that one picture where Donald Trump was holding this Cardcaptors Sakura figure complaining about his impact on rising figure prices. I can't find the image in the list of the figure's pictures, so maybe it was deleted. But I thought it was pretty funny. XD

ITEM #396841
11 days ago
6pt
I remember the night of the USA Clinton/Trump election results, there was much posting about those results. I objected to those posts, as I thought political stuff was out of bounds for the board -- and I was told by the "powers that be" here, that those posts were perfectly fine.

If those were fine, this should be fine as well.
11 days ago
1pt
Riot and violence is intolerance. It's interesting to see how we live in this flat world where it's actually a flat puzzle with spikes. I believe nobody would show mercy for criminals and everyone on this site pursue peace and love. So, I hope every one clear their eyes and don't judge on biased news, at least don't falsely be the spears for sinister politicians and media.
11 days ago
1pt
xShiroSakura (11 days ago) #68459976Well, MFC is not really the place to be discussing these things, but I don't think it's a bad idea to create awareness around this issue on different platforms.
We are free to express ourselves after all. If there were protests in the US and people were trying to create awareness around that people would be discussing it, but because it's China everyone has to be careful and censor everything just like they do? I don't really get it.
Maybe people, myself included, need to educate themselves more on the issue between China and HK before making statements, or maybe this is just the result of a clash between two very different cultures where one values "freedom" and one values "order". Either way I personally feel it should be okay to express your opinions if you can keep the conversation civil - that way we can maybe learn about the different aspects of the issue.


I don’t care about commenting on this. And I am not afraid to talk about this, because our Chinese government didn’t do what you assume or wish to do. Beijing actually almost did nothing on HK problem. If Chinese government wished to arrest protesters, they would never travel all over the world to diminish their country. I can’t believe it that when you see people assaulting travelers in the airport, destroying store on the street, throwing bricks to police, your feelings is not scared but excited. I heard that the protester in Portland did same thing like HK and American police arrested them, too. Between freedom and law, you indeed shouldn’t choose to say each one to be correct. HKness have dispersed negative influence on protesters all over the world. More and more people even in Europe and US turn to violence by using mask covering their face.

Another thing I have to contradict you is that in China no one will prevent you talking politics, but we hate some native people talking some unfamiliar things proudly. You guys Americans will never learn how Chinese people think, because we have different traditional. We feel shame to talk natively before thinking. Limited expression freedom is not chosen by government instead by Chinese people. If Chinese government are tyranny like most of west newspapers, Chinese people will revolute to against it because we have resolute a lot more governments than American or English during 19th to 20th century.

Finally, HK problem now has become a problem that some people want to split it from China and join English. You can see that from the video above. It is not just a protest on a law, but a revolution. There is no reason Chinese feel good to see this. If you Americans want to fight for your equality and freedom, you really shouldn’t bully rare Chinese on this site by using this unhappy political topic. Chinese like this site, too. You can of course post your opinions, but websites should be equal to everyone no matter race.
11 days ago
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