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  • LittlePisces
    LittlePiscesRegular Boarder • lv15
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    #1
    9 months ago
    Continuation of the previous thread. (thread/4491) The first thread reached its maximum number of comments.
  • Loria
    LoriaVery Important Boarder • lv24
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    #2
    9 months ago
    Seeing loads of comments and articles about How B'Full and Fots Japan (sometimes Pulvhra too) suck, I wonder if we can add some warnings in the information box of their entry pages. (The entry pages of the materials too)

    E.g. about the materials, i.e. PMMA and PVC-L, the companies use are brittle and figures may shatter during the transportation process. There is a large possibility that the figures will warp and bend after displaying for a period.

    Words in large size, bold and red.

    As a reference: Solaris Japan
    Including user pics of shattered/warped B'Full figures will be good to illustrate how these companies suck.
  • noctisity
    noctisity兵貴神速。Regular Boarder • lv15
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    #3
    9 months ago
    Loria9 months ago#90843601View spoilerHide spoilerSeeing loads of comments and articles about How B'Full and Fots Japan (sometimes Pulvhra too) suck, I wonder if we can add some warnings in the information box of their entry pages. (The entry pages of the materials too)
    E.g. about the materials, i.e. PMMA and PVC-L, the companies use are brittle and figures may shatter during the transportation process. There is a large possibility that the figures will warp and bend after displaying for a period.
    Words in large size, bold and red.
    As a reference: Solaris Japan
    Including user pics of shattered/warped B'Full figures will be good to illustrate how these companies suck.

    Not sure about the figure pages themselves, but most of the company/materials entries are drafts so you could add the warning yourself in the About section:

    Insight (ENTRY #127192) which isn't drafted already has a warning although it could be expanded to include more details imo.
  • billowsandsmoke
    billowsandsmokeRegular Boarder • lv15
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    #4
    9 months ago
    Loria9 months ago#90843601E.g. about the materials, i.e. PMMA and PVC-L, the companies use are brittle and figures may shatter during the transportation process. There is a large possibility that the figures will warp and bend after displaying for a period.
    Words in large size, bold and red.
    As a reference: Solaris Japan
    Including user pics of shattered/warped B'Full figures will be good to illustrate how these companies suck.
    I definitely think we should do something like this. Maybe instead of making it about FOTS/B'Full in particular (just in case anyone thinks we're just holding a grudge or something--plus, they do have a couple of actual PVC figures), we could put a warning on all entries with "PVC-L" listed as the material. I think that would be a very reasonable and doable change, and I agree that the "information" section is probably the best place for it.

    I can also take my own advice (re: my comment on your article) and add the photos I've collected of various broken/problematic figures to their corresponding item pages.
  • Loria
    LoriaVery Important Boarder • lv24
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    #5
    9 months ago
    Maybe I should edit the company and the material entries first.

    billowsandsmoke9 months ago#90843805we could put a warning on all entries with "PVC-L" listed as the material. I think that would be a very reasonable and doable change, and I agree that the "information" section is probably the best place for it.

    Hmmm right, but I wish there is a button like Counterfeit. After you edit the item and click that button, a warning sentence will appear in the entry. This should be easier to remind others.
    I wish this can come true one day.
    billowsandsmoke9 months ago#90843805
    I can also take my own advice (re: my comment on your article) and add the photos I've collected of various broken/problematic figures to their corresponding item pages.

    Yup! Please upload them if you can!
    Btw thx for reading my article <3
  • monkry
    monkryRegular Boarder • lv18
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    #6
    9 months ago
    Is it possible that ...

    on edit/add entry page, when user chooses companies tagged as "non-japanese company" (such as Myethos) as manufacturer/distributor/license holder(?), display warning such as:

    You've selected non-japanese company, please make sure the origin/title/series is of japanese origin, following rules: about/faq/#ref-...

    or something like that
    https://puu.sh/DDawt/7cd798952a.jpg
  • Loria
    LoriaVery Important Boarder • lv24
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    #7
    9 months ago • Updated 9 months ago
    monkry9 months ago#90844449Is it possible that ...
    on edit/add entry page, when user chooses companies tagged as "non-japanese company" (such as Myethos) as manufacturer/distributor/license holder(?), display warning such as:
    You've selected non-japanese company, please make sure the origin/title/series is of japanese origin, following rules: about/faq/#ref-...
    or something like that


    I wish so too.
    Or change the site rules slightly:
    Only allowed when non-japanese origin figures made by non-Japanese manufacturers have a Japanese distributor and a Japanese price.
    This should be better.
    No need to change the entry additions hugely (e.g. re-calculate taxes, new way of Romanizing) while satisfying many of the users here.

    I am tired of seeing new users adding the same Chinese items several times with the comments teasing the one who report the item as MFC police.
  • billowsandsmoke
    billowsandsmokeRegular Boarder • lv15
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    #8
    9 months ago
    Loria9 months ago#90844421Hmmm right, but I wish there is a button like Counterfeit. After you edit the item and click that button, a warning sentence will appear in the entry. This should be easier to remind others.
    I wish this can come true one day.
    Yup! Please upload them if you can!
    Btw thx for reading my article <3
    As much as having an automatic button would be great, I don't think it's too much to just add them by hand. Every time there's an Aniplex exclusive someone has to add the pre-order dates and the link to the info section, and I feel like they release more stuff. Should we work on the specific language that we'd use for that kind of warning though? Or do we need some kind of blessing from the mods before we go messing around with things? (I suppose we would need that anyway, since we'd need to place alerts on all the non-draft entries, right? I, uh, have generally stayed away from editing because it makes me anxious, but I'm trying to pick it up now.)

    But thanks for posting the article to begin with! I've been really wanting to try and push even a few minor changes for a while, but community burnout on top of my own pandemic malaise has kinda discouraged me. You bringing a little fresh energy to the table is much needed and much appreciated.

    Loria9 months ago#90844601I wish so too.
    Or change the site rules slightly:
    Only allowed when non-japanese origin figures made by non-Japanese manufacturers have a Japanese distributor and a Japanese price.
    This should be better.
    No need to change the entry additions hugely (e.g. re-calculate taxes, new way of Romanizing) while satisfying many of the users here.
    I am tired of seeing new users adding the same Chinese items several times with the comments teasing the one who report the item as MFC police.
    Honestly, I think the most conservative but reasonable change would just be to include Japanese distributors. If GSC is selling something on their site--i.e. it's being sold via a Japanese company--then I really can't give you a reason why it shouldn't be included. That change wouldn't accommodate every figure that people want added, but it would help a lot and take a minimal amount of effort, I think.

    I also noticed some folks mention how some Chinese series aren't allowed even though they've been made into anime--particularly Azur Lane, which I guess was produced by the No Game No Life/Food Wars people. I suspect the issue here has to do with how we divide "origins" according to movie/season rather than push it all together (i.e. all Prisma Illya seasons are separate, etc), and it makes sense that the game and anime are two separate sources. The problem is that since they're both called "Azur Lane," when something gets released under that name, it's not really specified which is the "source"? If ENTRY #149172 is a character from an anime produced and licensed by Japanese companies, then shouldn't all of her figures be on the site unless the product specifies that it's from the game? (I also don't know a whole lot about Azur Lane, so, maybe there's something I'm missing here.)
  • AtelierPuni
    AtelierPuniRegular Boarder • lv16
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    #9
    9 months ago • Updated 9 months ago
    billowsandsmoke9 months ago#90908750
    Honestly, I think the most conservative but reasonable change would just be to include Japanese distributors. If GSC is selling something on their site--i.e. it's being sold via a Japanese company--then I really can't give you a reason why it shouldn't be included. That change wouldn't accommodate every figure that people want added, but it would help a lot and take a minimal amount of effort, I think.
    I also noticed some folks mention how some Chinese series aren't allowed even though they've been made into anime--particularly Azur Lane, which I guess was produced by the No Game No Life/Food Wars people. I suspect the issue here has to do with how we divide "origins" according to movie/season rather than push it all together (i.e. all Prisma Illya seasons are separate, etc), and it makes sense that the game and anime are two separate sources. The problem is that since they're both called "Azur Lane," when something gets released under that name, it's not really specified which is the "source"? If ENTRY #149172 is a character from an anime produced and licensed by Japanese companies, then shouldn't all of her figures be on the site unless the product specifies that it's from the game? (I also don't know a whole lot about Azur Lane, so, maybe there's something I'm missing here.)


    I really agree with this! Allowing Japanese distributors only would solve the issue of being worried about unlicensed figures.
    I also think it's fine to just have the source material have the name (Azur Lane) and the anime to just be called something like "Azur Lane (Anime)" honestly. Goods would have to be branded specifically for the anime to be added (on AmiAmi at least, the goods are always marked as "TV Anime" in the item title).
  • Loria
    LoriaVery Important Boarder • lv24
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    #10
    9 months ago
    billowsandsmoke9 months ago#90908750 Should we work on the specific language that we'd use for that kind of warning though? Or do we need some kind of blessing from the mods before we go messing around with things? (I suppose we would need that anyway, since we'd need to place alerts on all the non-draft entries, right?

    Yup, I guess we need to ask the mods first.


    billowsandsmoke9 months ago#90908750
    Honestly, I think the most conservative but reasonable change would just be to include Japanese distributors. If GSC is selling something on their site--i.e. it's being sold via a Japanese company--then I really can't give you a reason why it shouldn't be included. That change wouldn't accommodate every figure that people want added, but it would help a lot and take a minimal amount of effort, I think.
    I also noticed some folks mention how some Chinese series aren't allowed even though they've been made into anime--particularly Azur Lane, which I guess was produced by the No Game No Life/Food Wars people. I suspect the issue here has to do with how we divide "origins" according to movie/season rather than push it all together (i.e. all Prisma Illya seasons are separate, etc), and it makes sense that the game and anime are two separate sources. The problem is that since they're both called "Azur Lane," when something gets released under that name, it's not really specified which is the "source"? If ENTRY #149172 is a character from an anime produced and licensed by Japanese companies, then shouldn't all of her figures be on the site unless the product specifies that it's from the game? (I also don't know a whole lot about Azur Lane, so, maybe there's something I'm missing here.)

    For the origins, I have had an idea for a long time.
    I found it hard to search all the Monogatari figures at the same time as you know, Monogatari has several seasons.
    Then nhentai came into mind. Yes. Nhentai. Dunno if you know that site, but it's a hentai site providing 18+ doujinshi/ illustration book. Anyway there's a function that I kinda find it interesting - despite it not being work well all the time. E.g. [Mori Ran|Ran Mouri] allows the page to show results of both Mori Ran & Ran Mouri's doujinshi. We know it's the same person, but this allows a better search of the character.
    Then I thought, well why didn't we have a similar function as well? Should be very helpful in finding figures and merches.
    I know nothing about programming and stuff, so I'm not sure if this is hard to write. Hmmm
  • DKWorks
    DKWorksModerator • lv30
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    #11
    8 months ago • Updated 7 months ago
    I propose adding an page extension to the FAQS, which provide a list of amendments that give context to why parts of the guidelines exist and when they're appropriate to use them. Such as:
    -Numbering vs. #ID: what can fill their slots so entries look organized and aesthetically pleasing.
    -Company histories: their buyouts and mergers, or when to add one or the other or both in an entry (Kadokawa + ASCII + Media Factory, Takara + Tomy, etc).
    -Translation of roles (or stylized titles) from JP to EN when looking at books.
    -Modifying tags: is the level of editing them the same as editing Origins/Characters/etc.? Why does it not change if the entry it sprouts from gets a name change?
    -Copyright: when to add on entries for the sake of intellectual property or for entries with special crediting.
    -List of non-JP companies and/or origins to warn when the combination of the two in an entry violates the guidelines.
    -Classification (types): what are sub/sup-series of what, and by looking at the title and/or researching content can you determine the right label, especially media.
  • LittlePisces
    LittlePiscesRegular Boarder • lv15
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    #12
    8 months ago
    I would love a feature where you would delete your own comments, but I am assuming it isn't possible for some reason since it's been many years now. All we can do is edit them to a "." or change the wording of the comment. It still would be nice to have.
  • Krescentia
    KrescentiaRegular Boarder • lv7
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    #13
    8 months ago
    I would like an option to "hide" specific figures and such.. I like making lists and browsing. So while I can make wishlists and favorites. It would be nice to be able to "hide" or select "not interested" on some I'll never want. Makes it easier to not overlook things too. ..though I'm not really sure how many people are really interested in such a thing.. lol.
  • bloud
    bloudRegular Boarder • lv7
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    #14
    8 months ago
    I still don't know exactly why the rule excluding Chinese companies is in place. Is it explained somewhere?

    I would really like to track my entire collection on here. As I said in almost the final post from the old thread, Chinese brands that are licensed and sold on the Japanese market should get an exception. These items are integrated into the Japanese market. The Japanese stores where I buy items from Myethos and Hobbymax for example, are sponsors of this site. I would think listing them here would help advertise these items and increase sales for the site sponsors.
  • setokaibaswife
    setokaibaswife♡ Seto Kaiba's Wife ♡Regular Boarder • lv23
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    #15
    8 months ago • Updated 8 months ago
    I wish it would be possible to report people without your username visible except to mods. The fact that reporting something puts your username right there on the post that you reported it just stops me from reporting anything ever. I've been harrassed when attempting to do it before, and the type of person who typically needs reporting (troll or rude/aggressive) is NOT the type of person who you want to know that you reported them...

    All that's left as an option is to write a DM to a moderator personally, but that's a lot of trouble.
  • tharglet
    thargletVery Important Boarder • lv21
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    #16
    8 months ago
    I think it would be good to reinstate thumbnails for NSFW figure results, as some people are getting rather confused when they get logged out or when they hit up a link to MFC and don't have an account yet.

    Thinking they could look like this:
    https://i.ibb.co/Bs3drRs/Screenshot-2021-02-22-100909.png
    And maybe link through to a generic version of the "item not suitable" page, if it's not desired to expose the item IDs from general browsing.
  • LittlePisces
    LittlePiscesRegular Boarder • lv15
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    #17
    8 months ago
    setokaibaswife8 months ago#92343477I wish it would be possible to report people without your username visible except to mods. The fact that reporting something puts your username right there on the post that you reported it just stops me from reporting anything ever. I 100% wish for this kind of system. I think reporting publicly makes things worse, especially from my previous experience when the one guy I reported was angry for getting told on. Other sites at least have you report anonymously with no trouble.
  • setokaibaswife
    setokaibaswife♡ Seto Kaiba's Wife ♡Regular Boarder • lv23
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    #18
    7 months ago
    LittlePisces8 months ago#93088798I 100% wish for this kind of system. I think reporting publicly makes things worse, especially from my previous experience when the one guy I reported was angry for getting told on. Other sites at least have you report anonymously with no trouble.
    Yup. If I REALLY need to report something I go to mods directly in DM but I feel like that's a pain for both me and the mods in question... I'd much rather have the option to report it without having a big sign over the post that I reported it. A completely anonymous system would be best for people to feel comfortable reporting and not get harrassed for it.
  • Blahh
    BlahhRegular Boarder • lv12
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    #19
    7 months ago
    Is it possible to remove pictures that are tagged as "Collection" from the front page of figure listings? I see a lot of figures with their front page pictures (most popular pictures) being of large collections to the point where you can barely spot the figure that's tagged.
  • flyingteapot
    flyingteapotRegular Boarder • lv28
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    #20
    7 months ago
    I don't know if this is the correct place to post this, but nowhere else seemed suitable.

    I just wish blacklists properly worked. It's pretty useless as long as we're still visible to the people we blocked and we still see their names in a thin line among comments as something "hidden from that specific account" to be clicked at. It's also pretty useless that they can still view us, quote us, and we still get notifications about it, etc... It just kind of kills the point of the feature.
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