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  • SydoniaRegular Boarder
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    Do you know any effective method for being sure that your play art isn't a counterfeit?

    Is there a difference between the american play arts and the japanese play arts?

    In advance, thank you very much and sorry for any mystake in my english.
  • Zetsubo-sanI LOVE HUMANS!!! (or do I? XD)Very Important Boarder
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    There is no difference between American and Japanese Play Arts other than the price and the release dates. After FFVIII, the difference between Japanese and American releases are eliminated and that we're treated with international versions with various writing (including Italian)

    As for differentiating fake from original. Usual qualities of fakes include:

    a. Hair is muddy.
    b. Face looks far from the looks of the authentic figure
    c. Paint job has bleeds or over-glossy. The authentic has a somewhat soft rubbery feel on them.
    d. Broken parts. The only authentic Play Arts figure known to have such factory defects is the infamous FFX Auron.
    e. Some figures with keychain attachments may not include them.
    f. Eyes are badly painted
    g. Skin is less-fleshy and more plastic in look.
    h. Tends to be smaller in size (FFVIII ones)
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    I have no comparison images of fake with originals at the moment. However, I am cooperating already with my friends that have the fakes and would be compiling them all as soon as they are done.

    Bootlegged Play Arts Figures:
    FFVII-AC: Vincent
    FFVII-AC: Sephiroth
    FFVII-AC: Cloud
    FFVIII: Squall
    FFVIII: Rinoa
    FFX: Tidus
    FFX: Yuna
    KH2: Sora Normal
    KH2: Sora Final
    KH2: Roxas
    KH2: Kairi
    KH2: Axel
    FMA: Edward
    FMA: Alphonse
    FMA: Winry
    CCFFVII: Cloud

    You need to be extra careful on buying those figures above. You need to find a really reputable seller if you cannot order via Square-Enix store.

    I cannot order via Square-Enix store myself so I could not help anyhow with regards to ordering there.
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    Yeeeees, HIDEYOSHI. We all know that YOU are prettier than Hanbei. XDDDDD
  • SydoniaRegular Boarder
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    Thanks for all the info ^^.

    I will be very careful, and I think I'm not gonna be the only one waitingo for the comparison images.
  • Zetsubo-sanI LOVE HUMANS!!! (or do I? XD)Very Important Boarder
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    Here are the ones we've finished so far.
    Open the documents in MS-Word.

    Cloud Strife Advent Children Report
    (Author: Balthier/Zetsubo-san, PinoyToy Kolektors)
    www.mediafire.c...

    Sephiroth Advent Children Report
    (Author: Serverus, PinoyToyKolektors)
    www.mediafire.c...
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    Yeeeees, HIDEYOSHI. We all know that YOU are prettier than Hanbei. XDDDDD
  • Singer_YunaAll along the Watchtower ♪Moderator
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    "I have no comparison images of fake with originals at the moment. However, I am cooperating already with my friends that have the fakes and would be compiling them all as soon as they are done."--> can you also inform me of comparison images on dissidia trading arts? cgi.ebay.ie/DIS...|66:4|65:12|39:1|240:1318
  • Zetsubo-sanI LOVE HUMANS!!! (or do I? XD)Very Important Boarder
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    @Yuna-chan

    That E-bay auction is using deceptively authentic images of the Dissidia Trading Arts.

    I posted a pic of the Fake Dissidia Trading arts here:
    figure.tsuki-bo...
    I think the most noticeable tell-tale sign of being a bootleg is Warrior of Light's horn being bent and the poor paint job on Zidane whose very crisply painted as an authentic.

    For Hi-res pics (well, apparently) and detail shots of the authentics, please consult my reviews. :) figure.tsuki-bo...

    As for the bootleg items themselves, they haven't reached our country so we are unable to make any complete reports about it. Sorry about that. Even the authentic Dissidia TA's are sold out in our country at the moment. :( Waaah...my Cloud! :(
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    Yeeeees, HIDEYOSHI. We all know that YOU are prettier than Hanbei. XDDDDD
  • ShindoWRegular Boarder
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    What defects does Auron play arts have? (I have one and he's been broken awhile... really need to glue him back lol)

    I found that my Squall trading arts looked rather shabby but when I got him he included the box and plastic..
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  • Zetsubo-sanI LOVE HUMANS!!! (or do I? XD)Very Important Boarder
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    Play Arts Auron often has defective right elbow and left leg. Often times his feet too can snap off easily.

    The Entire FFX Play Arts are very much defective to begin with due to the transparent pin joints used. However, Square-Enix did learned and never used such joints again. :)
    http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh64/Balthier_Bunanza/Harem/Hideyoshi.jpg
    Yeeeees, HIDEYOSHI. We all know that YOU are prettier than Hanbei. XDDDDD
  • AsheRegular Boarder
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    Hey,

    how do I know that a Selphie Play arts is no bootleg?

    I've ordered her and now I'm not sure if she's real.
    The face and everything look ok, she has some paint bleeds (esp. on her right boot and one on her dress). In the pictures I've seen there are also

    Her skin looks ok, just her upper body looks a bit darker than the rest. But it's not glossy or something.

    Actually I wouldn't think that she's a bootleg

    BUT, what makes me doubt that she's real is the box. It's taped with normal tape and not with round stickers.

    I've read that bootlegs can be smaller in size. But well, I can't open the box when I don't know if I have to send it back~.

    I hope someone can help me soon~!
    Thank you. ^^
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    AsheHey,

    how do I know that a Selphie Play arts is no bootleg?

    I've ordered her and now I'm not sure if she's real.
    The face and everything look ok, she has some paint bleeds (esp. on her right boot and one on her dress). In the pictures I've seen there are also

    Her skin looks ok, just her upper body looks a bit darker than the rest. But it's not glossy or something.

    Actually I wouldn't think that she's a bootleg

    BUT, what makes me doubt that she's real is the box. It's taped with normal tape and not with round stickers.

    I've read that bootlegs can be smaller in size. But well, I can't open the box when I don't know if I have to send it back~.

    I hope someone can help me soon~!
    Thank you. ^^


    In the Selphie figure I got, the box is also taped with normal tape, not the circular ones. Maybe it's just the FFVIII Play Arts?

    Though the upper body of the skin on my figure seems to be universally the same as the bottom - that my eye can distinguish anyway.

    Hope this helps! I really can't imagine bootleggers counterfeiting Selphie - she isn't exactly the most popular FF character; their resources would probably be better spent elsewhere.
  • AsheRegular Boarder
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    Thank you!

    I think I'll open her box, she seems quite ok to me. I was just worried because of the tape.


    But now there's another problem.
    We also bought a new Auron figure because ours often fell from the shelf an his legs, his arms and the chain where his bottle was attached to broke.

    The new Auron seems slightly different - his hair is different in the front, his skin looks a bit darker and somewhat diferrent. And - his box is most conspicious.

    Take a look at these pictures:

    PICTURE #71944 PICTURE #71945 PICTURE #71946 PICTURE #71947 PICTURE #71948 PICTURE #71949

    Could you, or someone else, tell me if one of them is a bootleg?
    I personally think the "old" Auron looks better, but his box does look more fake.

    Thank you! ^_^""
  • BentoRegular Boarder
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    Box: original is closed with 6 circular transparent adhesives; search for titles "Square-Enix Products" on the front of box (top-right of frontal window) and designer's name + Square logos and trademarks in down-left; search for Square-Enix informations on back of box (down-center): Address, PO-Box and Contacts (you can compare these informations on official SE site). Some bootlegs comes without these informations (Pla Arts FMA - first figures) or wrong informations (Play Arts KH2 vol.01).
    Figure: search for SE's mark on sole of foot (some figures this mark comes in different places, likes Tiffa FFVII AC). The plastic in bootlegs figures is more translucent and eye's print is more bright. And figure is more weightless.
    I wish to help... Sorry for my bad english :-(
  • TSOHRegular Boarder
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    On the topic of bootleg play arts, does anyone know if the Axel play arts box is taped with normal tape or round stickers? I found an axel in a local store that i would like to buy, he looks okay but the box looks a little off and its really beaten up and has normal tape closing it.
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    Just found this site via a friend, since I've recently gotten into collecting figures, and I've already found out that I've been bootlegged. I'm still paranoid and can't discern whether some figures I have are bootlegged, but my brother has been telling me that I'm nuts.

    I have Sora Normal, Roxas, and a bootlegged Sora Final Form (after I thought about it, I shouldn't have been surprised) Though I think my Sora Normal and Roxas ones are legit... 80% sure anyway.
  • BavlinRegular Boarder
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    I thought I'd post in here first instead of starting up a new topic.

    I bought FFVIII Play arts Squall and Rinoa a while ago now from ebay (I did few checks beforehand to be confident) but have since struggled to conclude whether or not they are bootlegs.

    I'm pretty good at spotting bootlegs by now. The box printing, material and paint quality of these look legit.

    The only problem is that I don't like their eyes (since I couldn't really tell in the photos when I bought them, and still can't tell in photos from current sellers), and I've checked photos everywhere without much help in solving this matter. So maybe someone here can set me straight.

    These two pics show what I mean:
    Rinoa 1
    Rinoa 2

    Could it be a difference between Japanese and American releases? If so, which is which?
    The eyes of the figures I have are similar to Rinoa 1, but it's in a Japanese box like the Rinoa 2 (taken from this review).

    I want to buy a set of figures with eyes like Rinoa 2, but I don't want to risk getting the same figures again if they are all like this or risk getting the wrong release.

    Which Rinoa figure do you guys have and which release was it?

    Thanks a lot!
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    I dont have the rinoa so i cant help you there, but i do have the squall, and your's looks just like mine. I'm fairly certain the squall is legit, maybe their quality control just wasnt as good on this line?
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    BavlinI thought I'd post in here first instead of starting up a new topic.

    I bought FFVIII Play arts Squall and Rinoa a while ago now from ebay (I did few checks beforehand to be confident) but have since struggled to conclude whether or not they are bootlegs.

    I'm pretty good at spotting bootlegs by now. The box printing, material and paint quality of these look legit.

    The only problem is that I don't like their eyes (since I couldn't really tell in the photos when I bought them, and still can't tell in photos from current sellers), and I've checked photos everywhere without much help in solving this matter. So maybe someone here can set me straight.

    These two pics show what I mean:
    Rinoa 1
    Rinoa 2

    Could it be a difference between Japanese and American releases? If so, which is which?
    The eyes of the figures I have are similar to Rinoa 1, but it's in a Japanese box like the Rinoa 2 (taken from this review).

    I want to buy a set of figures with eyes like Rinoa 2, but I don't want to risk getting the same figures again if they are all like this or risk getting the wrong release.

    Which Rinoa figure do you guys have and which release was it?

    Thanks a lot!

    Hello! I have Rinoa Play Arts and she looks like Rinoa 2. In the first picture, I thought it strange her neckchain: the rings are big! Those of my Rinoa are very small, like neckchain of Squall. My figure is Japanese, come in original box in Japanese. I don't know if Rinoa had a American version; the Advent Children's line has versions in American printed boxes, but I believe the quality of the figures are the same...
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    Bento
    Hello! I have Rinoa Play Arts and she looks like Rinoa 2. In the first picture, I thought it strange her neckchain: the rings are big! Those of my Rinoa are very small, like neckchain of Squall. My figure is Japanese, come in original box in Japanese. I don't know if Rinoa had a American version; the Advent Children's line has versions in American printed boxes, but I believe the quality of the figures are the same...


    Thank you very much about that observation on the neck chain! I didn't notice it before, but now that you have mentioned it, the neckchains on my Squall and Rinoa are very big indeed!

    Recently, I bought the Selphie figure on sale to complete the set. Her eyes are the 'good' version, and her neckchain is small too. This makes me believe that the Squall and Rinoa I have may be counterfeit. Although comparing the printing quality of the boxes, there's no difference whatsoever!
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    I wanted to know if there were any ways of detecting a counterfeit of the Cloud Play Arts (Item #1456) from the FFVII line (not AC). I don't have one in my possession yet, but I've gone to the item page and noticed the one counterfeit picture, and that one of the ways of telling might be the transparent joints. What if one was in a box and I couldn't really tell? Do the other counterfeit FF figures come in boxes, and if so, are their overall packaging similar to the real ones?
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