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Take care of your figures!Broken Figma Drossel Pigtail Ball-joint?

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  • tm2dragonRegular Boarder
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    I purchased a Figma Drossel off ebay recently. Sadly, she arrived with the balljoint of her pigtail snapped, the ball still stuck in its socket. Bright side? Seller didn't get back to me on my return request, so ebay refunded me, and now I have a free Figma! Still, the break is pretty sad, and I'm hoping for suggestions to fix her (I've never done any sort of repairs NEAR this delicate!). Even if I can never get it to the point where I can use the swap-out pigtail feature, I'd at least like to reattach it AND keep it posable. If there's a way to get the ball out of the socket and make the joint strong enough to pop in and out again, GREAT! If not, my hope is to find a way to reattach the peg without sticking anything directly to the head, strongly enough to at least use the joint as a swivel. Any tips? Here's a picture for reference (hopefully I'm doing this right, first time posting a picture on a forum!).

    https://static.myfigurecollection.net/image/tm2dragon1517016640.jpeg
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    tm2dragon (5 months ago) #30932859View spoilerHide spoilerI purchased a Figma Drossel off ebay recently. Sadly, she arrived with the balljoint of her pigtail snapped, the ball still stuck in its socket. Bright side? Seller didn't get back to me on my return request, so ebay refunded me, and now I have a free Figma! Still, the break is pretty sad, and I'm hoping for suggestions to fix her (I've never done any sort of repairs NEAR this delicate!). Even if I can never get it to the point where I can use the swap-out pigtail feature, I'd at least like to reattach it AND keep it posable. If there's a way to get the ball out of the socket and make the joint strong enough to pop in and out again, GREAT! If not, my hope is to find a way to reattach the peg without sticking anything directly to the head, strongly enough to at least use the joint as a swivel. Any tips? Here's a picture for reference (hopefully I'm doing this right, first time posting a picture on a forum!).
    https://static.myfigurecollection.net/image/tm2dragon1517016640.jpeg

    Hi,
    For a strong repair that preserves mobility, I would glue the thing back in place and drive a few metal rods through it. The repair will be visible through the clear plastic but I don't think this is much of a problem.

    You'll need a small hobby drill (manual or electric), some cyaonacrylate glue (I recommend this one for its handy bottleneck), a thin straight metal rod (for example, a sewing needle does the trick) and a pair of pincers to cut the rod.
    Also possibly a bit of small grit (like 120 or 300) sandpaper if you do a messy job with the glue.

    Start by taking out the broken peg that is stuck in her "skull" using your fingers or a pair of pliers. If this proves difficult, use one of the techniques described here instead.

    Once the peg is out, reattach it to the pigtail and drive two bits of metal through it. One along the axis of the peg and another one at an angle using the instructions in this tutorial. These two pieces of metal will ensure that the fix stays strong in any of the three possible movements (tilting, twisting and pulling).

    If you need any additional precision, feel free to ask. Good luck in fixing ;-)
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    kyoshinhei (5 months ago) #30932987Hi,
    For a strong repair that preserves mobility, I would glue the thing back in place and drive a few metal rods through it. The repair will be visible through the clear plastic but I don't think this is much of a problem.
    You'll need a small hobby drill (manual or electric), some cyaonacrylate glue (I recommend this one for its handy bottleneck), a thin straight metal rod (for example, a sewing needle does the trick) and a pair of pincers to cut the rod.
    Also possibly a bit of small grit (like 120 or 300) sandpaper if you do a messy job with the glue.
    Start by taking out the broken peg that is stuck in her "skull" using your fingers or a pair of pliers. If this proves difficult, use one of the techniques described here instead.
    Once the peg is out, reattach it to the pigtail and drive two bits of metal through it. One along the axis of the peg and another one at an angle using the instructions in this tutorial. These two pieces of metal will ensure that the fix stays strong in any of the three possible movements (tilting, twisting and pulling).
    If you need any additional precision, feel free to ask. Good luck in fixing ;-)
    Thanks! I'll give it my best go tomorrow! I'm a tad worried about my chances. The joint itself is VERY small, even for a Figma ball-joint, and clear plastic is kind of notorious for being brittle. Also......I can't seem to budge the ball part stuck in the skull, even though there's a big chunk of peg sticking out for me to push and pull on. The thing won't budge, not even around the socket itself. Hopefully, it's just a tight fit, which is why it snapped in the first place. Worst case scenario? Someone glued it in place. If I can't get the ball out, I'll come back and ask for some more suggestions. In the meantime, I've just taken out the other pigtail and left her bald. XD At least she's symmetrical now!

    Thanks again! Glad to see folks here so helpful, and quick to respond! THIS is the kind of toy forum I've been looking for!
  • kyoshinheiRegular Boarder
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    tm2dragon (5 months ago) #30933028View spoilerHide spoilerThanks! I'll give it my best go tomorrow! I'm a tad worried about my chances. The joint itself is VERY small, even for a Figma ball-joint, and clear plastic is kind of notorious for being brittle. Also......I can't seem to budge the ball part stuck in the skull, even though there's a big chunk of peg sticking out for me to push and pull on. The thing won't budge, not even around the socket itself. Hopefully, it's just a tight fit, which is why it snapped in the first place. Worst case scenario? Someone glued it in place. If I can't get the ball out, I'll come back and ask for some more suggestions. In the meantime, I've just taken out the other pigtail and left her bald. XD At least she's symmetrical now!
    Thanks again! Glad to see folks here so helpful, and quick to respond! THIS is the kind of toy forum I've been looking for!

    You're quite welcome.

    And yes, clear plastic is often harder than regular PVC and thus more brittle. When drilling into it, just be sure to use moderate strength and thoroughly evacuate the residue before you dig further.
    But on the bright side, clear plastic often makes clean breaks that than can be re-glued more nicely that softer plastic.

    Also, after the repair is done, if the fit is very tight you could try sanding the ball of the peg a teeny little bit before putting it back into the skull (but be careful not to loosen it too much)
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    kyoshinhei (5 months ago) #30933037View spoilerHide spoilerYou're quite welcome.
    And yes, clear plastic is often harder than regular PVC and thus more brittle. When drilling into it, just be sure to use moderate strength and thoroughly evacuate the residue before you dig further.
    But on the bright side, clear plastic often makes clean breaks that than can be re-glued more nicely that softer plastic.
    Also, after the repair is done, if the fit is very tight you could try sanding the ball of the peg a teeny little bit before putting it back into the skull (but be careful not to loosen it too much)
    Thanks for the help! Yeah, pliers didn't budge the balljoint in the socket......hopefully I haven't damaged the stem too much! I have a set of SUPER tiny hand drills at home, originally bought for the single purpose of drilling out proper holes in Gundam model gun barrels.....specifically the forehead Vulcan cannons. Should work for what you showed me! Won't be home for a few weeks though. I'll be sure to let you know how it goes!

    ........in the meantime, I have discovered her battle gear headset accessory, so at least she doesn't look bald anymore! If she proves unfixable, I'll still have gotten a decent looking figure out of the deal, so I feel happier about things now. ^_^
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    tm2dragon (5 months ago) #30934152View spoilerHide spoilerThanks for the help! Yeah, pliers didn't budge the balljoint in the socket......hopefully I haven't damaged the stem too much! I have a set of SUPER tiny hand drills at home, originally bought for the single purpose of drilling out proper holes in Gundam model gun barrels.....specifically the forehead Vulcan cannons. Should work for what you showed me! Won't be home for a few weeks though. I'll be sure to let you know how it goes!
    ........in the meantime, I have discovered her battle gear headset accessory, so at least she doesn't look bald anymore! If she proves unfixable, I'll still have gotten a decent looking figure out of the deal, so I feel happier about things now. ^_^

    Yup, that's the kind of drill you need.
    I recommend that you try the method described here
    Sticking a wire through the peg should give you a lever arm to unstuck it. Wiggle it first before you pull.
    http://mikatan.goodsmile.info/en/imgs/7/1/71f4b715.jpg
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    kyoshinhei (5 months ago) #30934281View spoilerHide spoilerYup, that's the kind of drill you need.
    I recommend that you try the method described here
    Sticking a wire through the peg should give you a lever arm to unstuck it. Wiggle it first before you pull.
    http://mikatan.goodsmile.info/en/imgs/7/1/71f4b715.jpg
    COOL! Not sure what "adhesive acceleration spray" is, but I'm betting it's EXACTLY what it sounds like. Here's hoping the stuff is both cheap and available at my local hobby-shop!

    Quick question: do you have a recommendation for a type of glue? I was planning on just using super glue, but if that spray works the way it sounds like it does, I'm guessing a slower drying glue is better? Just an inference on my part, but slow drying glue would allow you to position it with precision, then maybe the spray hardens it when you have it exactly lined up right? I'll look into the details on the spray, but could still use a glue brand recommendation.
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    tm2dragon (5 months ago) #30960705View spoilerHide spoilerCOOL! Not sure what "adhesive acceleration spray" is, but I'm betting it's EXACTLY what it sounds like. Here's hoping the stuff is both cheap and available at my local hobby-shop!
    Quick question: do you have a recommendation for a type of glue? I was planning on just using super glue, but if that spray works the way it sounds like it does, I'm guessing a slower drying glue is better? Just an inference on my part, but slow drying glue would allow you to position it with precision, then maybe the spray hardens it when you have it exactly lined up right? I'll look into the details on the spray, but could still use a glue brand recommendation.

    Personnaly, I just use Loctite Precision Super Glue. It sets quite fast so I've never had to use an acceleration spray.
    Just be sure to not put too much glue, a very thin layer is often enough. Most of the time, I use a needle to apply the glue
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